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Saying this about one of the fastest growing languages on the scene right now feels… weird?

valenterry 5y ago
I would say, many people also look down on much more popular languages, such as PHP. Go is still an absolute niche language, even more niche than languages like Scala or R.
- sph 5y ago
  Niche in your niche perhaps, but there's a lot of code in the wild written in Go. Hell, all the modern devops tools are written in Go (Docker, k8s & co.) Meanwhile, as a non Java programmer, I've never seen a Scala app. I know about R, but nothing on my PC is written in it. Agreed that PHP is massive in comparison to all of them.
  - buzer 5y ago
    > Meanwhile, as a non Java programmer, I've never seen a Scala app. One widely known Scala application is Kafka. Some parts of it are in Java, but actual core is still mainly Scala afaik.
    - _hzrk 5y ago
      Yep, Kafka is probably the most popular one. I've heard that the team is looking forward to replace the remaining Scala code in the project with Java once pattern matching and co. land. Spark is another beast that was written in Scala. Many are reporting a high cost for compatibility. Nowadays, Scala community is all about Typelevel and ZIO, if you are not a category theory minded person, then you will have a hard time picking it up.
      - eweise 5y ago
        Zio's library is not based on category theory. In fact, its trying to be the opposite.
        _hzrk 5y ago
        https://github.com/zio/zio-prelude https://github.com/zio/zio-prelude
  - im3w1l 5y ago
    > I know about R, but nothing on my PC is written in it. You could say the same thing about excel macros. They are both tools for wrangling data, tools that will typically not be distributed to end users.
  - valenterry 5y ago
    Sure, devops tools are usually more fundamental, whereas high level languages are used for things closer to the business. Twitter's backend for example is mainly powered by Scala, but you probably don't know about it, because it is not as visible to you.
    - throwaway894345 5y ago
      Enumeration isn’t a compelling way to indicate relative frequency (in this case, frequency of usage of Go and Scala, respectively). An enumeration of size=1 is even less convincing.
      - valenterry 5y ago
        That was not my intention. The example was supposed to show that not all software has the same visibility to software-developers.

I would say, many people also look down on much more popular languages, such as PHP. Go is still an absolute niche language, even more niche than languages like Scala or R.

sph 5y ago
Niche in your niche perhaps, but there's a lot of code in the wild written in Go. Hell, all the modern devops tools are written in Go (Docker, k8s & co.) Meanwhile, as a non Java programmer, I've never seen a Scala app. I know about R, but nothing on my PC is written in it. Agreed that PHP is massive in comparison to all of them.
- buzer 5y ago
  > Meanwhile, as a non Java programmer, I've never seen a Scala app. One widely known Scala application is Kafka. Some parts of it are in Java, but actual core is still mainly Scala afaik.
  - _hzrk 5y ago
    Yep, Kafka is probably the most popular one. I've heard that the team is looking forward to replace the remaining Scala code in the project with Java once pattern matching and co. land. Spark is another beast that was written in Scala. Many are reporting a high cost for compatibility. Nowadays, Scala community is all about Typelevel and ZIO, if you are not a category theory minded person, then you will have a hard time picking it up.
    - eweise 5y ago
      Zio's library is not based on category theory. In fact, its trying to be the opposite.
      - _hzrk 5y ago
        https://github.com/zio/zio-prelude https://github.com/zio/zio-prelude
- im3w1l 5y ago
  > I know about R, but nothing on my PC is written in it. You could say the same thing about excel macros. They are both tools for wrangling data, tools that will typically not be distributed to end users.
- valenterry 5y ago
  Sure, devops tools are usually more fundamental, whereas high level languages are used for things closer to the business. Twitter's backend for example is mainly powered by Scala, but you probably don't know about it, because it is not as visible to you.
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    Enumeration isn’t a compelling way to indicate relative frequency (in this case, frequency of usage of Go and Scala, respectively). An enumeration of size=1 is even less convincing.
    - valenterry 5y ago
      That was not my intention. The example was supposed to show that not all software has the same visibility to software-developers.