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It's so strange how people are looking to truly foreign substances / drugs (from ivermectin to bleach to SSRIs now) compared to a vaccine, which is basically ju

It's so strange how people are looking to truly foreign substances / drugs (from ivermectin to bleach to SSRIs now) compared to a vaccine, which is basically just a bunch of mRNA and a few preservatives. That is, a bunch of stuff that is basically already floating around in our bodies / cells.

bsaul 5y ago
i guess it's just natural distrust of anything that's new (mrna vaccines are most certainly a first time here). And tbh i find this suspicion quite reasonable.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  As a bit of historical trivia: the historical development timeline for SSRIs runs roughly parallel with that with the development timeline for mRNA vaccines. They’re roughly the same age.
toomanybeersies 5y ago
Why not both? Vaccination isn't a silver bullet.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  Nobody said it is. If your medical provider determines that you need both, then you should probably do that.
throaway46546 5y ago
Vaccinated people still get sick and die from covid. It isn't the end all be all. We still need effective treatments.
tinus_hn 5y ago
One difference is that ivermectin has been safely used for many years while mRNA vaccines are rather new.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  I posted this w/r/r SSRIs below, but it’s also true for Ivermectin: the development timeline aligns largely with that of mRNA vaccines. Vaccinated diseases, more so than other medical ailments, are subject to existing technology being “good enough” until it suddenly isn’t anymore. But that doesn’t mean new entries are untested; it means the economic envelope in which it makes sense to test them is just a different shape.
- _huayra_ 5y ago
  mRNA vaccines are not really new [0]. This article [1] specifically shows that we've used the mechanisms of mRNA vaccines since the 70s, and at least modern iterations of mRNA vaccines since ~10 years ago. Even if they were new, they're just a bunch of the same sort of genetic material that is already floating around in our bodies, not some external foreign substance that interacts with our cells. [0] https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-v... [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

bsaul 5y ago

i guess it's just natural distrust of anything that's new (mrna vaccines are most certainly a first time here). And tbh i find this suspicion quite reasonable.

woodruffw 5y ago
As a bit of historical trivia: the historical development timeline for SSRIs runs roughly parallel with that with the development timeline for mRNA vaccines. They’re roughly the same age.

toomanybeersies 5y ago

Why not both? Vaccination isn't a silver bullet.

woodruffw 5y ago
Nobody said it is. If your medical provider determines that you need both, then you should probably do that.

throaway46546 5y ago

Vaccinated people still get sick and die from covid. It isn't the end all be all. We still need effective treatments.

tinus_hn 5y ago

One difference is that ivermectin has been safely used for many years while mRNA vaccines are rather new.

woodruffw 5y ago
I posted this w/r/r SSRIs below, but it’s also true for Ivermectin: the development timeline aligns largely with that of mRNA vaccines. Vaccinated diseases, more so than other medical ailments, are subject to existing technology being “good enough” until it suddenly isn’t anymore. But that doesn’t mean new entries are untested; it means the economic envelope in which it makes sense to test them is just a different shape.
_huayra_ 5y ago
mRNA vaccines are not really new [0]. This article [1] specifically shows that we've used the mechanisms of mRNA vaccines since the 70s, and at least modern iterations of mRNA vaccines since ~10 years ago. Even if they were new, they're just a bunch of the same sort of genetic material that is already floating around in our bodies, not some external foreign substance that interacts with our cells. [0] https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-v... [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w