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Did you wipe the drive? If not, there is probably a hidden OEM partition that Windows uses to install all that OEM stuff back after fresh installs.
by brnt 5y ago
Did you wipe the drive? If not, there is probably a hidden OEM partition that Windows uses to install all that OEM stuff back after fresh installs.
- xunn0026 5y agoThis reads like dealing with a hardware compromised machine. At some point, why even bother?
- encryptluks2 5y agoFrom what I gather, Microsoft gets OEM info from UEFI and lets OEM manufacturers use that to provide software/drivers via Windows Update. In this instance, it kept rolling back the integrated Radeon driver directly from AMD to one that the OEM provided that was over a year old.
- KronisLV 5y ago> At some point, why even bother? Because a lot of people: - don't care about their privacy and spyware (a non-insignificant chunk of the populace, even i'm growing weary after decades of surveillance attempts) - don't know any better (perhaps the majority of the consumerbase) - only have certain software available on Windows (e.g. MobaXTerm, or have something like Sony Vegas fit their workflow and don't have the desire to change) - don't know how to use the alternative OSes well, or have bad experiences with them (Linux driver installation, anyone?) - feel like that's a fair tradeoff to make for being able to run their favourite entertainment software or video games (Proton will probably eventually be good enough, but yet doesn't have 100% coverage, which currently isn't enough to sway everyone) Personally, i just run a dual boot setup with Windows 10 (since it seems marginally less horrible than 11 for the time being) for playing legacy games and using the software that i like, and Linux Mint (or Ubuntu, or Debian, depending on the mood/year) for development stuff. Honestly, Linux is probably the better platform for many other things, everything from privacy to development (how it works with Docker and other *nix software is especially nice, no need for weird mapping, WSL/WSL2, MinGW or any other weirdness on Windows), but for a variety of reasons the adoption remains low. That said, i actually recently wrote about some of my frustrations as a part of my blog article, "On technological illiteracy", which ended up talking a bit more about the driver issues and hardware support: https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/on-technological-illiteracy https://blog.kronis.dev/articles/on-technological-illiteracy Let's just hope that things continue improving in the coming decades!
- brnt 5y agoThats how I treat any new device: compromised, by the manufacturer.
- encryptluks2 5y agoYes I wiped the drive. I didn't use any OEM partition to reinstall. I used the latest Windows ISO, including October updates that comes directly from Microsoft. This is a known issue that is well documented. You can find the HP stuff in the Windows Update catalog, as well as other OEM providers.
- brnt 5y ago> I didn't use any OEM partition to reinstall. If you wipe, its OK, but if you dont, the partition may be used by Windows, even if you install fresh from an image you prepared yourself.
- toast0 5y agoACPI tables from the system ROM can give Windows a list of urls to fetch and install. This is useful when the OEM isn't being a jerk. They can be sure you've got the drivers for the touchpad or whatever, regardless of how you install... But they don't always use their powers for good.