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Headline is a physical impossibility to occur (if we assume astronomers in our solar system), or a practical impossibility to know about (if we assume otherwise

Headline is a physical impossibility to occur (if we assume astronomers in our solar system), or a practical impossibility to know about (if we assume otherwise).

imoverclocked 5y ago
Pedantically, we can't actually witness anything at the same moment it happens for the same reasons. Our brains trick us into thinking we are... but it turns out all of us are behind the times. I think the headline provides the necessary punch of what was so cool about this observation; "We" watched it evolve instead of just looking at the aftermath.
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  >Pedantically, we can't actually witness anything at the same moment it happens for the same reasons. the best kind of antically, when I first read the title I snorted as everyone else and rushed in to observe the obvious (ironic given the subject) but your observation brought me up short - then again observations that are only milliseconds in remove from the occurrence as opposed to millions of light years may be given a pass about the 'same time' crack.
  - lou1306 5y ago
    It's not only the speed of light, but also the time the brain needs to process visual inputs, and It adds up to dozens of milliseconds: https://theconversation.com/what-youre-seeing-right-now-is-the-past-so-your-brain-is-predicting-the-present-131913 https://theconversation.com/what-youre-seeing-right-now-is-t...
    - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
      If only the brain used React and the shadow DOM we wouldn't have this problem!
- rootlocus 5y ago
  I think it stops being pedantic when it's a 19 orders of magnitude difference between 1ms and 60mya
kodah 5y ago
Yeah, not a great headline, though they did say it was 60 million light years away, which at least alludes to the truth.
ur-whale 5y ago
Headline is meaningless: with relativity in play, "at the same time" does not even have a well defined meaning.
ur-whale 5y ago
Headline is imo meaningless: with general relativity in play, does "at the same time" even have a well defined meaning?

Headline is a physical impossibility to occur (if we assume astronomers in our solar system), or a practical impossibility to know about (if we assume otherwise).

imoverclocked 5y ago

Pedantically, we can't actually witness anything at the same moment it happens for the same reasons. Our brains trick us into thinking we are... but it turns out all of us are behind the times. I think the headline provides the necessary punch of what was so cool about this observation; "We" watched it evolve instead of just looking at the aftermath.

bryanrasmussen 5y ago
>Pedantically, we can't actually witness anything at the same moment it happens for the same reasons. the best kind of antically, when I first read the title I snorted as everyone else and rushed in to observe the obvious (ironic given the subject) but your observation brought me up short - then again observations that are only milliseconds in remove from the occurrence as opposed to millions of light years may be given a pass about the 'same time' crack.
- lou1306 5y ago
  It's not only the speed of light, but also the time the brain needs to process visual inputs, and It adds up to dozens of milliseconds: https://theconversation.com/what-youre-seeing-right-now-is-the-past-so-your-brain-is-predicting-the-present-131913 https://theconversation.com/what-youre-seeing-right-now-is-t...
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    If only the brain used React and the shadow DOM we wouldn't have this problem!
rootlocus 5y ago
I think it stops being pedantic when it's a 19 orders of magnitude difference between 1ms and 60mya

kodah 5y ago

Yeah, not a great headline, though they did say it was 60 million light years away, which at least alludes to the truth.

ur-whale 5y ago

Headline is meaningless: with relativity in play, "at the same time" does not even have a well defined meaning.

ur-whale 5y ago

Headline is imo meaningless: with general relativity in play, does "at the same time" even have a well defined meaning?