"Criminals would be in favor of this" is a discussion-killing point to make in basically anything about crime and law. Some other things that criminals would be

"Criminals would be in favor of this" is a discussion-killing point to make in basically anything about crime and law. Some other things that criminals would be in favor of: - the right to not be obligated to testify against themselves - the right to a speedy trial - the right to a lawyer - the ability to appeal judgments against them - the ability to walk away free when the police have gathered evidence illegally, even when that evidence clearly proves they did it (the "fruit of the poisonous tree" doctrine) - the very idea that certain methods of gathering intelligence are illegal - the idea that it's better for them and their nine buddies to go free than that one innocent person be punished - the deprecation of the rack as a method of extracting confessions and so forth. It's uninteresting that criminals support a justice system that is not fully skewed in favor of the government - people who care about a free and just society also care about those things, and those are the arguments to engage with.