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Very nicely articulated article from MG on this. Although I may be biased since it pretty much echoes every point I believe as well. Anyone think otherwise?

recoiledsnake 15y ago
The opening line of extrapolating a SFO cafe to a Post-PC _world_ was pretty cheesy. This guy has no idea how things work in the world, especially Asia. Also no mention of how Carly Fiorina got rid of the R&D teams to cut costs, leading to the current disaster. Siegler comes across as a shallow fanboy, atleast Gruber can put some better spin on things.
- fuzzythinker 15y ago
  Don't want to turn this into flame, but I disagree with your argument. I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe. And it is impossible to tell if the R&D teams really stay and did a good job, would it really make webOS flourish or would it just prolong its dismise. Can webOS even win 3rd place without a true believing CEO that bet the company behind it? That is why I believe that details about how it got into this "mess" is irrelevant to the article.
  - cooldeal 15y ago
    >I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe Huh what? Have you looked at Mac penetration in Asia? Look at Safari usage in North America vs. Asia http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 Sales of PCs in China grew 11% last quarter year over year.
    - megablast 15y ago
      Nothing you have said counters fuzzyfinger point 'I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe.' Yes, Asia may have more macs, and they may be growing more, but we are after statistics showing more people use mobile devices for internet access than PCs.
      - thezilch 15y ago
        It's not clear what you are trying to say, but I think you at least should have changed the statistic on the same graph: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-as-monthly-201007-...

recoiledsnake 15y ago

The opening line of extrapolating a SFO cafe to a Post-PC _world_ was pretty cheesy. This guy has no idea how things work in the world, especially Asia. Also no mention of how Carly Fiorina got rid of the R&D teams to cut costs, leading to the current disaster. Siegler comes across as a shallow fanboy, atleast Gruber can put some better spin on things.

fuzzythinker 15y ago
Don't want to turn this into flame, but I disagree with your argument. I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe. And it is impossible to tell if the R&D teams really stay and did a good job, would it really make webOS flourish or would it just prolong its dismise. Can webOS even win 3rd place without a true believing CEO that bet the company behind it? That is why I believe that details about how it got into this "mess" is irrelevant to the article.
- cooldeal 15y ago
  >I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe Huh what? Have you looked at Mac penetration in Asia? Look at Safari usage in North America vs. Asia http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 Sales of PCs in China grew 11% last quarter year over year.
  - megablast 15y ago
    Nothing you have said counters fuzzyfinger point 'I thought it is Asia that is more PC-less than US & Europe.' Yes, Asia may have more macs, and they may be growing more, but we are after statistics showing more people use mobile devices for internet access than PCs.
    - thezilch 15y ago
      It's not clear what you are trying to say, but I think you at least should have changed the statistic on the same graph: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-as-monthly-201007-201107 http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-as-monthly-201007-...