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The benefits provided by SoCs outweigh the benefits of user upgradeable RAM for me. > Swapping batteries due to charge issues was never particularly important
by sbuk 5y ago
The benefits provided by SoCs outweigh the benefits of user upgradeable RAM for me.
> Swapping batteries due to charge issues was never particularly important to the majority of consumers and is a red herring.
Why?
- lotsofpulp 5y ago>The benefits provided by SoCs outweigh the benefits of user upgradeable RAM for me. And 90% of laptop users. Utility of computer upgrades for most people’s needs stagnated 5 to even 10 years ago. I think the last big material improvement before M1 for regular consumers was SSD replacing HDD.
- rasz 5y agoYou say that like those are somehow mutually exclusive.
- sbuk 5y agoThey kind of are by definition - System on a Chip. I'll rephrase; the benefits of having on-package RAM (unified would be even better!) outweigh the benefits of user-upgradable RAM. User upgradable/appendable storage is another thing entirely.
- rasz 5y agoThe _only_ real benefits of on-package RAM are cost and forcing planned obsolescence. You get maybe 0.2ns latency difference by not laying out ram socket next to CPU.
- smoldesu 5y agoPlease show me a workload constrained by memory latency/bandwidth on MacOS. I'd really love to see how those benchmarks turn out so the average user can decide for themselves.
- sbuk 5y agoI'd love to see less passive/aggressive responses, but this is the internet... Editing images and video comes to mind. Average users are doing that a lot more, since they have access to high resolution RAW output via mobile devices that struggle less than their desktop to cope with the throughput.
- lamontcg 5y ago> I'd love to see less passive/aggressive responses, but this is the internet... You're the guy who decided to drag this argument off onto the soapbox that you wanted to talk about that I never cared about. I wrote you off from the tone of your first response... because this is the internet...