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i'm an engineer and i'm not even sure what "PE cert" stands for. certification means very litte.

lapetitejort 5y ago
A Professional Engineer certification can mean "We trust you to work on things where human lives may be at stake". Gatekeeping engineers use this to exclude everyone else. If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer.
- junon 5y ago
  > If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer. This is such a ridiculous, asinine, and outright wrong assertion that it warrants no reasoned response.
  - dang 5y ago
    In that case please follow the site guidelines, which ask you not to reply. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 also broke the site guidelines. That's not cool, regardless of how bad other comments are or you feel they are. Would you please review them and take the intended spirit of this place more to heart? We'd appreciate it.
  - sho_hn 5y ago
    I'm fairly sure the post you're replying you was interpretative-facetious.
    - junon 5y ago
      I got that, it was directed towards the engineers who act this way. I've met too many of them as well.
  - anthk 5y ago
    European here. You answer is the most ridiculous answer here. Here if you are not an ACTUAL Engineer with a Degree, on civil issues with harms you could be jailed, and your manager would suffer the same fate. Here being an Engineer is a SERIOUS duty, you half assed software "Engineer" titles would be void upon regularizing your academic earnings. Mostly a Trade/Vocational Degree and that's it. Harsh? Human lives are a serious issue.
    - dang 5y ago
      Please do not post in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. We've had to ask you this multiple times before. That's not cool. You also broke the site guidelines by crossing into personal attack below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025655 We're trying to avoid this kind of thing here, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
    - junon 5y ago
      I also live in Europe. The term Engineer is used in many contexts outside of "what you build could kill people" contexts. Get off your high horse.
      - anthk 5y ago
        Spaniard here. I doubt it. Maybe in the UK, but in the rest of Europe being an Engineer is not a bragging wannabe title.

A Professional Engineer certification can mean "We trust you to work on things where human lives may be at stake". Gatekeeping engineers use this to exclude everyone else. If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer.

junon 5y ago
> If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer. This is such a ridiculous, asinine, and outright wrong assertion that it warrants no reasoned response.
- dang 5y ago
  In that case please follow the site guidelines, which ask you not to reply. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 also broke the site guidelines. That's not cool, regardless of how bad other comments are or you feel they are. Would you please review them and take the intended spirit of this place more to heart? We'd appreciate it.
- sho_hn 5y ago
  I'm fairly sure the post you're replying you was interpretative-facetious.
  - junon 5y ago
    I got that, it was directed towards the engineers who act this way. I've met too many of them as well.
- anthk 5y ago
  European here. You answer is the most ridiculous answer here. Here if you are not an ACTUAL Engineer with a Degree, on civil issues with harms you could be jailed, and your manager would suffer the same fate. Here being an Engineer is a SERIOUS duty, you half assed software "Engineer" titles would be void upon regularizing your academic earnings. Mostly a Trade/Vocational Degree and that's it. Harsh? Human lives are a serious issue.
  - dang 5y ago
    Please do not post in the flamewar style to HN, regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is. We've had to ask you this multiple times before. That's not cool. You also broke the site guidelines by crossing into personal attack below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025655 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29025655 We're trying to avoid this kind of thing here, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
  - junon 5y ago
    I also live in Europe. The term Engineer is used in many contexts outside of "what you build could kill people" contexts. Get off your high horse.
    - anthk 5y ago
      Spaniard here. I doubt it. Maybe in the UK, but in the rest of Europe being an Engineer is not a bragging wannabe title.