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None of those are comparable. * you can easily get a non-covid passport to leave the country * you need a driver's license to prove skill * it's illegal to ent

None of those are comparable. * you can easily get a non-covid passport to leave the country * you need a driver's license to prove skill * it's illegal to enter a country illegally. Working without a visa isn't an issue because you're not allowed there to begin with. But with covid, we've removed fundamental rights. Driving is not a right. Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights... but not if you're a skeptic. But about your examples, these things are now illegal but have never been: * Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport. * In Romania you're not allowed to go outside without a mask and you're not allowed to go outside at night AT ALL if you're not vaccinated. Even worse: * France debated removing voting rights for non vaccinated people. > This is how civilization works You know which other people invoked civilization?

malermeister 5y ago
> you need a driver's license to prove skill Just like you need a vaccine certificate to prove vaccination :) > Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights Says who? Who defines those rights? > these things are now illegal but have never been: [...] > In Romania you're not allowed to go outside without a mask and you're not allowed to go outside at night AT ALL if you're not vaccinated. Ceausescu declared a national curfew on December 20 1989. > Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave? Both of these "unprecedented" things have precedent. You're over-exaggerating in your hysteria. > You know which other people invoked civilization? Please, enlighten me.
- ryanlol 5y ago
  > Ceausescu declared a national curfew on December 20 1989. And then 5 days later the Ceausescus were sentenced to death and executed by a firing squad, the same fate that the proponents of covid passports deserve. I suppose that was your point. I have no problem with the vaccines, I just don’t think it’s a reasonable excuse for anyone to ask my ID.
- sgjohnson 5y ago
  > > Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights > Says who? Who defines those rights? UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. > > Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport > Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave? Ok, I'm now fairly confident you're just trolling.
  - malermeister 5y ago
    > Ok, I'm now fairly confident you're just trolling. Why would you think I'm trolling? I demonstrated both examples you gave were invalid and all you did was try to derail the conversation.

malermeister 5y ago

> you need a driver's license to prove skill Just like you need a vaccine certificate to prove vaccination :) > Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights Says who? Who defines those rights? > these things are now illegal but have never been: [...] > In Romania you're not allowed to go outside without a mask and you're not allowed to go outside at night AT ALL if you're not vaccinated. Ceausescu declared a national curfew on December 20 1989. > Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave? Both of these "unprecedented" things have precedent. You're over-exaggerating in your hysteria. > You know which other people invoked civilization? Please, enlighten me.

ryanlol 5y ago
> Ceausescu declared a national curfew on December 20 1989. And then 5 days later the Ceausescus were sentenced to death and executed by a firing squad, the same fate that the proponents of covid passports deserve. I suppose that was your point. I have no problem with the vaccines, I just don’t think it’s a reasonable excuse for anyone to ask my ID.
sgjohnson 5y ago
> > Leaving your country and working (in your country) are rights > Says who? Who defines those rights? UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. > > Australia doesn't allow you to leave the country even if you have a passport > Australia literally was a prison colony. You know, prisons, the things where people can't leave? Ok, I'm now fairly confident you're just trolling.
- malermeister 5y ago
  > Ok, I'm now fairly confident you're just trolling. Why would you think I'm trolling? I demonstrated both examples you gave were invalid and all you did was try to derail the conversation.