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The comment that I replied to said that she has a valid point being anti-male because she receives so much unwanted attention. And my reply is that I believe th

The comment that I replied to said that she has a valid point being anti-male because she receives so much unwanted attention. And my reply is that I believe the sexualized attention isn't unwanted but instead it's part of her marketing strategy which includes - among other things - the "sexy cyborg" branding and 18+ videos. In a similar vein, if I wanted to make a YouTube channel that appeals to true hackers, I might stop shaving and showering for a few days and wear the hoodie. That sounds like a great marketing strategy to stand out from the boring suit & tie crowd ;) EDIT: Marketing agencies already beat me to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLsNOMqyD8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcLsNOMqyD8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aTGB1KFgII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aTGB1KFgII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M71fnJNNeE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M71fnJNNeE

vorpalhex 5y ago
Wu has been clear that her reasons for her dress style is her interest in women, not attracting the male gaze. One of the traditional hacker values is personal agency - doing things because you like them, not to fit in or sell. In general we need to take people at their word and not supply our own beliefs. We diminish ourselves when we minimize the agency of others.
- fxtentacle 5y ago
  "In general we need to take people at their word and not supply our own beliefs" You will have a difficult time navigating the real world if you approach public personas with such a trusting approach. "I just want you to know I’m not a pedophile" Jeffrey Epstein "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bill Clinton "I'm a benevolent dictator." Harvey Weinstein In my opinion, Wu is a public persona, too, because the majority of her income directly depends on the public's perception of her. Also, her influencer marketing with the Creality printer brand is probably conditioned on her presenting in a certain way. So regardless of whether she dresses that way for guys or for girls, I'd argue that my point still stands: She made a calculated decision to publicly present herself in that way and given that she appears to be highly intelligent, she was probably aware of the consequences (including male attention) beforehand.
  - vorpalhex 5y ago
    There's a reason I prefaced with the word "generally" but you can replace that with the longer "Lacking evidence to the contrary". In case this hasn't been explained to you yet: Someones fashion choices are not an excuse to behave inappropriately or give them unwanted advances. If she wants to dress that way and someone behaves inappropriately towards her, the issue isn't with her.

vorpalhex 5y ago

Wu has been clear that her reasons for her dress style is her interest in women, not attracting the male gaze. One of the traditional hacker values is personal agency - doing things because you like them, not to fit in or sell. In general we need to take people at their word and not supply our own beliefs. We diminish ourselves when we minimize the agency of others.

fxtentacle 5y ago
"In general we need to take people at their word and not supply our own beliefs" You will have a difficult time navigating the real world if you approach public personas with such a trusting approach. "I just want you to know I’m not a pedophile" Jeffrey Epstein "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Bill Clinton "I'm a benevolent dictator." Harvey Weinstein In my opinion, Wu is a public persona, too, because the majority of her income directly depends on the public's perception of her. Also, her influencer marketing with the Creality printer brand is probably conditioned on her presenting in a certain way. So regardless of whether she dresses that way for guys or for girls, I'd argue that my point still stands: She made a calculated decision to publicly present herself in that way and given that she appears to be highly intelligent, she was probably aware of the consequences (including male attention) beforehand.
- vorpalhex 5y ago
  There's a reason I prefaced with the word "generally" but you can replace that with the longer "Lacking evidence to the contrary". In case this hasn't been explained to you yet: Someones fashion choices are not an excuse to behave inappropriately or give them unwanted advances. If she wants to dress that way and someone behaves inappropriately towards her, the issue isn't with her.