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All Apple had to was to have the touch bar over function keys, and nobody would complain at all.

• edgriebel 5y ago
  THIS! Touch bar is cool but when they went and removed _the ESC key_ they failed. Both would be ideal
  • ceejayoz 5y ago
    Touch Bars have had a separate, physical ESC key since 2019. I'm looking at one right now.
    • minimaxir 5y ago
      Due to years of vocal complaints from developers since 2016.
      • ceejayoz 5y ago
        Sure, but "both would be ideal" exists. You can have an Escape key and Touch Bar, if you want.
        • dmitriid 5y ago
          It's not "ideal". Function keys are exactly that: physical keys. Something you can use without looking down at your keyboard.
        • trevyn 5y ago
          I think two rows of function keys would be ideal! Each with a little OLED display, please. (Why hasn't this happened yet??)
    • sedatk 5y ago
      ESC itself doesn't cut it for me. With my resting hand position on the keyboard, my fingers touch the touch bar, and it always causes something either catastrophic or very frustrating. On a similar note, I'd gotten used to pressing Fn keys without looking at the keyboard. With touch bar, I have to carefully analyze the touch bar before doing anything with Fn keys. It's a very problematic experience overall. If it was a separate bar, I wouldn't have any of these issues.
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