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This seems to be the most overly dramatic description of a bug that I have ever seen.

cassianoleal 5y ago
Indeed. And he doesn't even say whether he's using Monterey GA or one of the betas. This is just attention seeking, really.
lordleft 5y ago
I mean, this is not an uncommon situation for a MacOS user to be in, so I share Quinn's shock that this made it to release.
- threatofrain 5y ago
  If it is common, then why the shock -_-a?
  - happytoexplain 5y ago
    The word "this" does not refer to the bug, it refers to the use case that produces the bug. I.e. it is shocking that a dramatic/obvious UI bug in a common use case was not caught.
tekacs 5y ago
I had the same reaction initially. For anyone else looking -- the poster linked to the second tweet in the thread. The first tweet [1] shows that menubar items are /hidden behind the notch/ (fully rendered, you can click and interact with them). I took a screenshot [2]. As issues go, that's a pretty dramatic bug, no? [1]: https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143510111059968 https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143510111059968 [2]: https://cln.sh/OwM0wgFCTUF6EP5EsJAA https://cln.sh/OwM0wgFCTUF6EP5EsJAA
- lelandfe 5y ago
  It’s been a LONG time since I worked on menubar stuff in macOS, but is it possible that this is happening because iStat is drawing the icons in a non-standard way? Can this happen to a menubar with just stock menus - say by reducing the display resolution?
  - tekacs 5y ago
    https://twitter.com/bjango/status/1453171506263982087?s=20 https://twitter.com/bjango/status/1453171506263982087?s=20 iStat replied to this post to say that they're not!
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  - ushakov 5y ago
    yes, in the demo same thing happens to the macOS battery menu
- Hammershaft 5y ago
  This was the first thing I wondered when I saw that notch. I figured there would be overflow "more" menus before the notch but uh... nope. Really lazy and weak design tbh.
wayneftw 5y ago
I guess one man's overly dramatic is another man's laughter at the absurd. Or, perhaps you missed the "laughing so hard I'm crying" emoji? Anyway - this is exactly what Apple wanted. They knew it would make people talk. They also knew that some faction of Apple worshipers would come along to downplay any and all issues with it. Apple can do what they want and the zealots can think what they want, but we can enjoy laughing at them when they fall flat on their face too right?
listless 5y ago
I don’t know. This is a pretty obvious and clumsy bug to ship in your flagship OS. I think it deserves the ridicule. We gotta laugh at something these days and Apple is a guaranteed punch up.
andrei_says_ 5y ago
Someone complained about file search on MacOS not defaulting to current folder in a recent thread :) It’s a setting in finder preferences and that person knew it but hated the default and described it as an ongoing bug in multiple is releases. I found that entertaining but also a good indicator of the level of frustration caused by small inconveniences.

Indeed. And he doesn't even say whether he's using Monterey GA or one of the betas. This is just attention seeking, really.

lordleft 5y ago

I mean, this is not an uncommon situation for a MacOS user to be in, so I share Quinn's shock that this made it to release.

threatofrain 5y ago
If it is common, then why the shock -_-a?
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  The word "this" does not refer to the bug, it refers to the use case that produces the bug. I.e. it is shocking that a dramatic/obvious UI bug in a common use case was not caught.

tekacs 5y ago

I had the same reaction initially. For anyone else looking -- the poster linked to the second tweet in the thread. The first tweet [1] shows that menubar items are /hidden behind the notch/ (fully rendered, you can click and interact with them). I took a screenshot [2]. As issues go, that's a pretty dramatic bug, no? [1]: https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143510111059968 https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143510111059968 [2]: https://cln.sh/OwM0wgFCTUF6EP5EsJAA https://cln.sh/OwM0wgFCTUF6EP5EsJAA

lelandfe 5y ago
It’s been a LONG time since I worked on menubar stuff in macOS, but is it possible that this is happening because iStat is drawing the icons in a non-standard way? Can this happen to a menubar with just stock menus - say by reducing the display resolution?
- tekacs 5y ago
  https://twitter.com/bjango/status/1453171506263982087?s=20 https://twitter.com/bjango/status/1453171506263982087?s=20 iStat replied to this post to say that they're not!
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- ushakov 5y ago
  yes, in the demo same thing happens to the macOS battery menu
Hammershaft 5y ago
This was the first thing I wondered when I saw that notch. I figured there would be overflow "more" menus before the notch but uh... nope. Really lazy and weak design tbh.

wayneftw 5y ago

I guess one man's overly dramatic is another man's laughter at the absurd. Or, perhaps you missed the "laughing so hard I'm crying" emoji? Anyway - this is exactly what Apple wanted. They knew it would make people talk. They also knew that some faction of Apple worshipers would come along to downplay any and all issues with it. Apple can do what they want and the zealots can think what they want, but we can enjoy laughing at them when they fall flat on their face too right?

listless 5y ago

I don’t know. This is a pretty obvious and clumsy bug to ship in your flagship OS. I think it deserves the ridicule. We gotta laugh at something these days and Apple is a guaranteed punch up.

andrei_says_ 5y ago

Someone complained about file search on MacOS not defaulting to current folder in a recent thread :) It’s a setting in finder preferences and that person knew it but hated the default and described it as an ongoing bug in multiple is releases. I found that entertaining but also a good indicator of the level of frustration caused by small inconveniences.