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No, the problem is not mainly China and India. China emits just half as much CO2 per capita as the US and has already effectively halted further increase severa

No, the problem is not mainly China and India. China emits just half as much CO2 per capita as the US and has already effectively halted further increase several years ago [1]. India is at 1/10th of the per capita emissions of the US. You can of course explore every option but there's already an option that works, so we should start implementing that. [1] https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?locations=CN https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.ATM.CO2E.PC?location...

dntrkv 5y ago
I am well aware that the US, Canada, and Australia have the highest CO2 emissions per capita. They all have a lot of work to do. I am not dismissing their major contribution to the problem. The US in particular has reduced per capita emissions significantly and continues to do so. The reason I pointed out China and India is that they are still developing and a large chunk of their population has yet to modernize. In the process, they will significantly increase their emissions. I am not blaming them. Any other country would do the same in their place. My point is that the only way we can reduce their coming impact (and all of the other developing countries) is by developing renewables and battery storage tech to be a viable alternative to fossil fuels.
brightball 5y ago
Per capita is great and all, but the population is still 4.5x for China and 4x that of the US for India. If we're being honest, a lot of those emissions probably would be coming from the US if so much manufacturing hadn't moved to China over the last few decades. From everything I've read, India isn't a big problem from a CO2 perspective but from an oceanic pollution perspective from trash dumping.
rufus_foreman 5y ago
Here's a chart of CO2 emissions by country: https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1452641577407590409 https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1452641577407590409. Asia produces 53% of global emissions. Per capita numbers are meaningless here. If the citizens of Liechtenstein were emitting 1,000 times much CO2 per capita as people in Asia, Asia would still be where you need to start if you were serious about reducing C02 emissions. I know, I know, but it's not fair!
rsj_hn 5y ago
> No, the problem is not mainly China and India. China emits just half as much CO2 per capita as the US Explain that to the air.

dntrkv 5y ago

I am well aware that the US, Canada, and Australia have the highest CO2 emissions per capita. They all have a lot of work to do. I am not dismissing their major contribution to the problem. The US in particular has reduced per capita emissions significantly and continues to do so. The reason I pointed out China and India is that they are still developing and a large chunk of their population has yet to modernize. In the process, they will significantly increase their emissions. I am not blaming them. Any other country would do the same in their place. My point is that the only way we can reduce their coming impact (and all of the other developing countries) is by developing renewables and battery storage tech to be a viable alternative to fossil fuels.

brightball 5y ago

Per capita is great and all, but the population is still 4.5x for China and 4x that of the US for India. If we're being honest, a lot of those emissions probably would be coming from the US if so much manufacturing hadn't moved to China over the last few decades. From everything I've read, India isn't a big problem from a CO2 perspective but from an oceanic pollution perspective from trash dumping.

rufus_foreman 5y ago

Here's a chart of CO2 emissions by country: https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1452641577407590409 https://twitter.com/marceldirsus/status/1452641577407590409. Asia produces 53% of global emissions. Per capita numbers are meaningless here. If the citizens of Liechtenstein were emitting 1,000 times much CO2 per capita as people in Asia, Asia would still be where you need to start if you were serious about reducing C02 emissions. I know, I know, but it's not fair!

rsj_hn 5y ago

> No, the problem is not mainly China and India. China emits just half as much CO2 per capita as the US Explain that to the air.