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I mean there's also plenty of other options, like the parts didn't fundamentally work and it's easier to just forget about it and write a new article than risk

I mean there's also plenty of other options, like the parts didn't fundamentally work and it's easier to just forget about it and write a new article than risk another media blowup by bringing a Twitter personality into a story that's not really about her?

junon 5y ago
That makes absolutely zero sense, though. She's also not a twitter personality. She's a full-blown engineer with a very popular Youtube channel and following and has done these sorts of things quite often.
- morelisp 5y ago
  Whatever else she also is, she's absolutely a social media personality. > full-blown engineer This, I seriously doubt. As far as I know she's very deep in the DIY/maker scene, but I don't think she's been flashing around a PE cert. Or maybe we have a difference of opinion what a "full-blown engineer" is.
  - vangelis 5y ago
    There's a lot of engineers out there who wouldn't count as engineers by that metric.
  - sho_hn 5y ago
    Naomi Wu is not a US citizen (the English name is a pseudonym). The NSPE is a US-only entity.
  - brokensegue 5y ago
    i'm an engineer and i'm not even sure what "PE cert" stands for. certification means very litte.
    - lapetitejort 5y ago
      A Professional Engineer certification can mean "We trust you to work on things where human lives may be at stake". Gatekeeping engineers use this to exclude everyone else. If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer.
      - junon 5y ago
        > If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer. This is such a ridiculous, asinine, and outright wrong assertion that it warrants no reasoned response.
        dang 5y ago
        In that case please follow the site guidelines, which ask you not to reply. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 also broke the site guidelines. That's not cool, regardless of how bad other comments are or you feel they are. Would you please review them and take the intended spirit of this place more to heart? We'd appreciate it.
        sho_hn 5y ago
        I'm fairly sure the post you're replying you was interpretative-facetious.
        junon 5y ago
        I got that, it was directed towards the engineers who act this way. I've met too many of them as well.
        anthk 5y ago
        European here. You answer is the most ridiculous answer here. Here if you are not an ACTUAL Engineer with a Degree, on civil issues with harms you could be jailed, and your manager would suffer the same fate. Here being an Engineer is a SERIOUS duty, you half assed software "Engineer" titles would be void upon regularizing your academic earnings. Mostly a Trade/Vocational Degree and that's it. Harsh? Human lives are a serious issue.
masklinn 5y ago
That makes absolutely no sense, Wu is in china so some back and forth in order to get the collars to fit correctly is to be expected. Following which you're done because the chinese shop can make the collars to order whenever that's needed. > bringing a Twitter personality into a story that's not really about her? Wu was already involved in this. Per her comments she'd already sent packages of collars to be tested and altered / fitted. Hell, mentioning that there was a volunteer / grassroots effort to produce new collars would have been more honest than the article going "collars where?"
- morelisp 5y ago
  It's a light human interest story, not a comprehensive international assessment of iron lungs parts suppliers or formal inventory and provenance check of Martha's stock.
  - junon 5y ago
    > It's a light human interest story It's NPR. There's no excuse for poor sensationalist journalism even from them.
    - morelisp 5y ago
      A brief retrospective of iron lungs and the technical difficulties faced by people who still prefer them is among the least sensationalist pieces of writing I can imagine. Where you normally get news that's so sedate by this standard?

junon 5y ago

That makes absolutely zero sense, though. She's also not a twitter personality. She's a full-blown engineer with a very popular Youtube channel and following and has done these sorts of things quite often.

morelisp 5y ago
Whatever else she also is, she's absolutely a social media personality. > full-blown engineer This, I seriously doubt. As far as I know she's very deep in the DIY/maker scene, but I don't think she's been flashing around a PE cert. Or maybe we have a difference of opinion what a "full-blown engineer" is.
- vangelis 5y ago
  There's a lot of engineers out there who wouldn't count as engineers by that metric.
- sho_hn 5y ago
  Naomi Wu is not a US citizen (the English name is a pseudonym). The NSPE is a US-only entity.
- brokensegue 5y ago
  i'm an engineer and i'm not even sure what "PE cert" stands for. certification means very litte.
  - lapetitejort 5y ago
    A Professional Engineer certification can mean "We trust you to work on things where human lives may be at stake". Gatekeeping engineers use this to exclude everyone else. If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer.
    - junon 5y ago
      > If your screw-up doesn't cost human lives then you're not a real engineer. This is such a ridiculous, asinine, and outright wrong assertion that it warrants no reasoned response.
      - dang 5y ago
        In that case please follow the site guidelines, which ask you not to reply. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29023822 also broke the site guidelines. That's not cool, regardless of how bad other comments are or you feel they are. Would you please review them and take the intended spirit of this place more to heart? We'd appreciate it.
      - sho_hn 5y ago
        I'm fairly sure the post you're replying you was interpretative-facetious.
        junon 5y ago
        I got that, it was directed towards the engineers who act this way. I've met too many of them as well.
      - anthk 5y ago
        European here. You answer is the most ridiculous answer here. Here if you are not an ACTUAL Engineer with a Degree, on civil issues with harms you could be jailed, and your manager would suffer the same fate. Here being an Engineer is a SERIOUS duty, you half assed software "Engineer" titles would be void upon regularizing your academic earnings. Mostly a Trade/Vocational Degree and that's it. Harsh? Human lives are a serious issue.

masklinn 5y ago

That makes absolutely no sense, Wu is in china so some back and forth in order to get the collars to fit correctly is to be expected. Following which you're done because the chinese shop can make the collars to order whenever that's needed. > bringing a Twitter personality into a story that's not really about her? Wu was already involved in this. Per her comments she'd already sent packages of collars to be tested and altered / fitted. Hell, mentioning that there was a volunteer / grassroots effort to produce new collars would have been more honest than the article going "collars where?"

morelisp 5y ago
It's a light human interest story, not a comprehensive international assessment of iron lungs parts suppliers or formal inventory and provenance check of Martha's stock.
- junon 5y ago
  > It's a light human interest story It's NPR. There's no excuse for poor sensationalist journalism even from them.
  - morelisp 5y ago
    A brief retrospective of iron lungs and the technical difficulties faced by people who still prefer them is among the least sensationalist pieces of writing I can imagine. Where you normally get news that's so sedate by this standard?