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I don't get what is the news here and why this is in top. You could always replace the battery. It's just that it is not easy. Now to replace it, you need to re
by zerof1l 5y ago
I don't get what is the news here and why this is in top. You could always replace the battery. It's just that it is not easy. Now to replace it, you need to remove a trackpad. Ridiculous. You still can't purchase a replacement battery from Apple to replace it yourself. The only option is to purchase it from a place like iFixit once your warranty is out, or pay ridiculous price at Apple.
- teilo 5y agoThis is incorrect. We are an Apple self-service shop (meaning we are authorized by Apple to do our own repairs, order OEM parts, etc.). In the 2019 models, battery replacement required a new top shell.
- drcongo 5y agoI'm impressed that you dignified that post with an answer.
- Wingman4l7 5y agoNo it doesn't, you're (understandably) just not willing to do the large amount of labor required to rip out the battery: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Touch+Bar+2019+Battery+Replacement/124182 https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Touch+Bar+2...
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- eli 5y agoFTA: "this new MacBook Pro has, at the very least, the first reasonably DIY-friendly battery replacement procedure since 2012."
- MrBuddyCasino 5y agoI'm not sure what is supposed to be an improvement? I replaced a MBP 2015 battery myself, and this did not require removing the touchpad.
- thenayr 5y agoHow long did it take you? What level of expertise do you have in terms of disassembly / electronics in general? Did you read this quote from the article: "Even better, it appears the battery isn’t trapped under the logic board. That could mean battery swaps without removing all the brains first—a procedure we’ve been dreaming about for a while." That...seems like a pretty big improvement?
- MrBuddyCasino 5y agoIt would be an improvement if swapping batteries on a 2015 MBP required removing the logic board, which it doesn’t. As to expertise: you just need to remove a few screws and then the power connector, its not difficult just tedious.
- riffic 5y agoall the steps are designed to prevent you from damaging your speakers with adhesive removal solvent. You don't have to follow each step, but if you don't know any better you should. taking shortcuts just leads to sloppy outcomes, like any repair method.
- MrBuddyCasino 5y agoThe tradeoff is not so clear cut. When disassembling more parts, more can go wrong. This is true for the MBP, and especially for the iPhone. Screws can get damaged, misplaced or swapped, which can be disastrous because they have different lengths. If the whole procedure takes a long time, people will get impatient and probability of errors increases. This is why I still feel the fishing line method, combined with low quantities of solvent is the least risky option overall.
- paxys 5y agoSucks that this is now the gold standard whereas for laptops sold a decade ago you didn't even need to open up the chassis or use a screwdriver to replace the battery.
- Spooky23 5y agoLaptops a decade ago were modular and thick enough to have a frame to support the structure. The removable battery in your device wasn’t supporting the device. It’s a design trade off that most OEMs have made. It’s an argument akin to complaining about unibody cars. For the vast majority of people, like 95%, nobody was replacing laptop batteries on a regular basis.
- Brian_K_White 5y agoMy month old Framework belies this.
- riffic 5y agoMy experience with expanded lithium batteries says otherwise.
- Spooky23 5y agoMy team maintained about 30k laptops at one point. We historically bought <1000 batteries a year, mostly due to environmental issues like cold and good lifecycle management.
- ryanhuff 5y agoI have a 2012 MBP, and Apple won't replace the battery. The laptop works great, but Apple considers "obsolete". Sad.
- masklinn 5y agoIf you have a 2012 you can easily replace the battery yourself, just check the relevant ifixit guide for the screw bits you need, IIRC from my 2010's replacement the battery has a pair of screws (one of which I think is behind the HDD bracket, though I may be misremembering) and an adhesive strip on the back which can easily be overpowered (though it's probably a better idea to soften it using heat from the trackpad side). According to coconut I replaced my battery back in 2017~2018 or so (battery was manufactured in October 2017) and it was a breeze. "New" battery is at 6934/7000mAh (99% capacitity).
- ryanhuff 5y agoAccording to ifixit, just 106 easy steps to replace and re-assemble! :)
- d0gbread 5y agoI think there are early and mid 2012s that differ quite a bit. I have a mid 2012 and the battery replacement is a nightmare. I'm waiting for my 14" to arrive, I'll switch over, then give it a go so I can hand me down the 2012 with some life in it. And if I blow it so be it.
- ryanhuff 5y agoYou must have the 2012 retina!
- asdff 5y agoI have this computer too and I recommend the replacement sold on BH photo video. I just put it in and I can somehow get like 7 hours plus of use from this computer doing very light stuff (like reading hn). Impressive for a computer so old. Still very performant for me imo with 16gb of ram and an SSD upgrade under the hood. I was looking at the m1 but I'll hold off, nothing pushing me away from this device currently and it seems like I will have software compatibility issues on ARM until they refine rosetta or offer bootcamp again.
- m463 5y agoI guess "pull tabs" makes it slightly different...
- bigbaguette 5y agoWell, the last battery I bought from iFixit was flawed and killed the logic board. Victim among a few others of a bad batch. They refunded the battery at least. Now I can fry my logic board again without having to go through the major pain of removing the original battery.
- givemeethekeys 5y agoThe 2013 and 2015 MacBook pros have a battery and charge controller that is so badly glued onto the body that you're bound to damage something else in the process of trying to replace it.