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I'm not dismissing Common Lisp. I've actively searched for and applied to jobs that advertised using Common Lisp. I just don't see the Common Lisp community ra
by bmitc 5y ago
I'm not dismissing Common Lisp. I've actively searched for and applied to jobs that advertised using Common Lisp.
I just don't see the Common Lisp community rallying to make it more cohesive (and thus more popular and attractive), which is fine, but it means it won't get used outside of enthusiasts bringing it into niche pockets of companies. I have the same complaints with F#, which is one of my favorite languages, because there are just too many libraries/frameworks that are just one-off side projects of a single developer. (There are of course separate reasons for F#'s lack of uptake.)
If the entire Common Lisp ecosystem is as good as people say it is, then I don't see why it couldn't go through a path like Erlang did with Elixir and even so without a syntax change (just a nice bundling of the ecosystem and tooling) instead of just relying on war stories of its use and telling people they just don't get it.
- medo-bear 5y agoit might be that convincing people to switch to common lisp is a lot like convincing people to switch to linux from windows. is it possible that there might be people who do not care much about ready-made tools or frameworks and enjoy engineering solutions from a more fundamental level? i think those people definitely exist and i personally rather enjoy hearing their war stories