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That's touchpad speed though, not mouse speed. And this was on Linux Mint, which is meant to be a beginner's Linux distro.

marcodiego 5y ago
Sorry, I bit it. Plugged a mouse just to test it: the procedure is EXACTLY the same. And Ubuntu is not a hard for beginners distro. You're parroting outdated false comments.
- benbristow 5y ago
  I think I was on KDE and tried to change my mouse speed and couldn't find a slider to save my life. It was just one example though. I tried to install a NVIDIA driver for example on Linux Mint and it wouldn't work until I edited some file to use a different kernel module that would start earlier. Spent ages trying to debug it. On Windows the driver gets installed automatically and if I want to update it I just launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button.
  - WD-42 5y ago
    Ah yes, Geforce Experience. You mean the bloatware Nvidia makes you create an account for just to install their drivers? On Linux I simply type pacman -S nvidia to install the drivers on my system. Reboot and it's done. There is even a GUI to install packages, since that seems like it's important for you.
    - benbristow 5y ago
      You're talking about Arch Linux there though which definitely isn't for the average user, and again you're needing to use the terminal. I'm very competent at using the terminal myself and have installed Arch Linux from the base image before but it's not exactly user friendly. As I mentioned before though, Windows does install some quite recent NVIDIA drivers automatically via Windows Update. And if you don't want to use GFE, you can just go to the NVIDIA website and install the latest drivers that way.
      - WD-42 5y ago
        OK, replace a single terminal command in Linux with opening the software app, searching for Nvidia, and clicking install. This would be the user friendly process on pretty much any mainstream distribution for getting the latest drivers. Having to navigate through Nvidia's website, create an account, and download a bunch of bloatware that takes forever to install is barbaric. Calling Windows user friendly is a meme at this point.
        anthk 5y ago
        Solus OS. Go to the driver assistant, it will show up that Nvidia propietary drivers are missing. Click on it, wait to download and install, done. Windows is a joke in comparison.
  - marcodiego 5y ago
    > It was just one example though. One bad example. The problem with examples like this is that some people will believe and repeat them. Some problems are fixed and people don't even check before spreading the word. You can even find in this thread people talking about how Ubuntu included amazon ads. > I tried to install a NVIDIA driver for example on Linux Mint and it wouldn't work until I edited some file to use a different kernel module that would start earlier. Spent ages trying to debug it. On Windows the driver gets installed automatically and if I want to update it I just launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button. Good luck trying to use mint. But AFAIK, Ubuntu comes with NVIDIA drivers by default. There's no need to "launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button" to update it. It feels like you searching for a complicated way to do things and then complain about it.
    - benbristow 5y ago
      > But AFAIK, Ubuntu comes with NVIDIA drivers by default It comes with the open-source 'Nouveau' drivers which are, in the nicest words possible, unsatisfactory. It's definitely easier to install them on Ubuntu though through the drivers GUI.
  - zekica 5y ago
    I installed nvidia drivers just by opening "Driver Manager" and installing it. No terminal needed.
benbristow 5y ago
Here's a forum thread I've found for example, from 2019. One of the top results on Google. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=294777 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=294777 The thread's mental. Why does OP need to figure out the device ID of their mouse and run terminal commands to change the speed of their mouse?
- marcodiego 5y ago
  I stand with my position. My laptop has Ubuntu 20.04 installed. I plugged a mouse. To set its speed, I simply press super and type "mouse", click on the mouse settings that appears; there is a slider to set its speed. Considering this is from GNOME I don't believe the procedure is different in most popular linux distros. And here is the TOP google result I search "linux how to set mouse speed": https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-sensitivity.html.en https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-sensitivity...
monocasa 5y ago
Mint isn't really a beginner's distro, but instead a striped down distro. It's for the people who pine for the early 2000s Linux experience.
- benbristow 5y ago
  Claims from Linux Mint's website - https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/: "The latest version of the friendly operating system is here. Install it on your computer today!" "It is designed to work 'out of the box'" "Most of our users come from Windows and they never look back." "It's very easy to use. It features an intuitive desktop and adopts KISS principles. Anyone can rapidly feel at home and use Linux Mint. User experience, workflow and comfort is key." Sounds like a beginner's distro to me. I always thought they were trying to go after a more beginner audience also as they pre-install all the proprietary codecs and a large collection of software that you'd most likely want to use out of the box as a beginner (not stripped down like you say). Good luck if you want to use Google with autocomplete as your default search engine on the preinstalled Firefox though.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    I can see how you'd take that from that marketing literature, but when they talk about KISS principles and what have you, they're talking about config files rather than GUIs for power user configuration. They don't really have the resources for anything else. A more mainstream distro is what you're looking for if you want a consistent, modern experience.
    - benbristow 5y ago
      Mint ranks in the top 5 for the past 12 months on DistroWatch.com, even above Ubuntu. If Mint isn't mainstream, what is? Probably just Ubuntu, and maybe PopOS?
      - monocasa 5y ago
        The distrowatch ranking is heavily gamed to the point of being useless. That's why MX Linux is the top now. Top distros actually being used are Ubuntu, Fedora, and Suse on the desktop, Debian and CentOS (or RHEL if you pay for it) on the server.

marcodiego 5y ago

Sorry, I bit it. Plugged a mouse just to test it: the procedure is EXACTLY the same. And Ubuntu is not a hard for beginners distro. You're parroting outdated false comments.

benbristow 5y ago
I think I was on KDE and tried to change my mouse speed and couldn't find a slider to save my life. It was just one example though. I tried to install a NVIDIA driver for example on Linux Mint and it wouldn't work until I edited some file to use a different kernel module that would start earlier. Spent ages trying to debug it. On Windows the driver gets installed automatically and if I want to update it I just launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button.
- WD-42 5y ago
  Ah yes, Geforce Experience. You mean the bloatware Nvidia makes you create an account for just to install their drivers? On Linux I simply type pacman -S nvidia to install the drivers on my system. Reboot and it's done. There is even a GUI to install packages, since that seems like it's important for you.
  - benbristow 5y ago
    You're talking about Arch Linux there though which definitely isn't for the average user, and again you're needing to use the terminal. I'm very competent at using the terminal myself and have installed Arch Linux from the base image before but it's not exactly user friendly. As I mentioned before though, Windows does install some quite recent NVIDIA drivers automatically via Windows Update. And if you don't want to use GFE, you can just go to the NVIDIA website and install the latest drivers that way.
    - WD-42 5y ago
      OK, replace a single terminal command in Linux with opening the software app, searching for Nvidia, and clicking install. This would be the user friendly process on pretty much any mainstream distribution for getting the latest drivers. Having to navigate through Nvidia's website, create an account, and download a bunch of bloatware that takes forever to install is barbaric. Calling Windows user friendly is a meme at this point.
      - anthk 5y ago
        Solus OS. Go to the driver assistant, it will show up that Nvidia propietary drivers are missing. Click on it, wait to download and install, done. Windows is a joke in comparison.
- marcodiego 5y ago
  > It was just one example though. One bad example. The problem with examples like this is that some people will believe and repeat them. Some problems are fixed and people don't even check before spreading the word. You can even find in this thread people talking about how Ubuntu included amazon ads. > I tried to install a NVIDIA driver for example on Linux Mint and it wouldn't work until I edited some file to use a different kernel module that would start earlier. Spent ages trying to debug it. On Windows the driver gets installed automatically and if I want to update it I just launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button. Good luck trying to use mint. But AFAIK, Ubuntu comes with NVIDIA drivers by default. There's no need to "launch the Geforce Experience and hit one button" to update it. It feels like you searching for a complicated way to do things and then complain about it.
  - benbristow 5y ago
    > But AFAIK, Ubuntu comes with NVIDIA drivers by default It comes with the open-source 'Nouveau' drivers which are, in the nicest words possible, unsatisfactory. It's definitely easier to install them on Ubuntu though through the drivers GUI.
- zekica 5y ago
  I installed nvidia drivers just by opening "Driver Manager" and installing it. No terminal needed.

benbristow 5y ago

Here's a forum thread I've found for example, from 2019. One of the top results on Google. https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=294777 https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=294777 The thread's mental. Why does OP need to figure out the device ID of their mouse and run terminal commands to change the speed of their mouse?

marcodiego 5y ago
I stand with my position. My laptop has Ubuntu 20.04 installed. I plugged a mouse. To set its speed, I simply press super and type "mouse", click on the mouse settings that appears; there is a slider to set its speed. Considering this is from GNOME I don't believe the procedure is different in most popular linux distros. And here is the TOP google result I search "linux how to set mouse speed": https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-sensitivity.html.en https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-sensitivity...

monocasa 5y ago

Mint isn't really a beginner's distro, but instead a striped down distro. It's for the people who pine for the early 2000s Linux experience.

benbristow 5y ago
Claims from Linux Mint's website - https://linuxmint.com/ https://linuxmint.com/: "The latest version of the friendly operating system is here. Install it on your computer today!" "It is designed to work 'out of the box'" "Most of our users come from Windows and they never look back." "It's very easy to use. It features an intuitive desktop and adopts KISS principles. Anyone can rapidly feel at home and use Linux Mint. User experience, workflow and comfort is key." Sounds like a beginner's distro to me. I always thought they were trying to go after a more beginner audience also as they pre-install all the proprietary codecs and a large collection of software that you'd most likely want to use out of the box as a beginner (not stripped down like you say). Good luck if you want to use Google with autocomplete as your default search engine on the preinstalled Firefox though.
- monocasa 5y ago
  I can see how you'd take that from that marketing literature, but when they talk about KISS principles and what have you, they're talking about config files rather than GUIs for power user configuration. They don't really have the resources for anything else. A more mainstream distro is what you're looking for if you want a consistent, modern experience.
  - benbristow 5y ago
    Mint ranks in the top 5 for the past 12 months on DistroWatch.com, even above Ubuntu. If Mint isn't mainstream, what is? Probably just Ubuntu, and maybe PopOS?
    - monocasa 5y ago
      The distrowatch ranking is heavily gamed to the point of being useless. That's why MX Linux is the top now. Top distros actually being used are Ubuntu, Fedora, and Suse on the desktop, Debian and CentOS (or RHEL if you pay for it) on the server.