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> The Jeffrey Epstein story is so deep and disturbing, but no one in media will touch it in any depth. Or even do anything more than superficially acknowledge i

> The Jeffrey Epstein story is so deep and disturbing, but no one in media will touch it in any depth. Or even do anything more than superficially acknowledge it. It's claims like this that alienate me from conspiracy theories like this one. What do you mean by "no one in media will touch it in any depth"? There have been innumerable front page and long form articles written about every aspect of it, including bits that are barely substantiated by reality or just barely hint at connections to nefarious forces. What would be the appropriate amount of coverage? I assume that for many people (not necessarily for you; I don't mean to tar too broadly with this brush) it would be media coverage that confirms the entirety of the theory; from his death at the hands of Hillary Clinton to his private sex island where he pimped out underage girls to his powerful friends and collected the videos to be used as blackmail by his intelligence service (Israeli? French? CIA? Russian?) connections. Every story with even vague connections to Epstein is plastered over every news outlet in the world. Maybe you would argue that the coverage is superficial, but it might be that the reason that they don't go beneath the surface is because ... there's nothing there. Epstein was a serial rapist who recruited underage girls and convinced them to recruit their friends, for his sexual exploitation. When caught, he used his connections to weasel out of paying for his crimes. When caught again, realizing that his connections could no longer protect him, he attempted to kill himself, failed, and then tried again and succeeded. He was wealthy and thought that his wealth could protect him. He was a big fan of technology and transhumanism and donated extensively in the area and cultivated relationships with people in those spaces. Our jails are not great at keeping people alive when they wish to end their lives, and they failed here, as they do so depressingly often for so many people accused of crimes.

wahnfrieden 5y ago
Thanks for your nothing to see here defense of Epstein and his enablers, and the kind reference to his scientific interests
orangepurple 5y ago
The reason people believe in mass cover ups is because of cases such as the death of Vincent Foster which was written off as a regular suicide by all major media publications.
- fortuna86 5y ago
  There is 0 evidence his death was anything but a suicide, and was ruled so by police. You believe things to be obvious, or as proof of some conspiracy, without evidence. That's a more interesting thing to explore than a single conspiracy.
  - orangepurple 5y ago
    There are so many problems with his story. Just one excerpt: >In the wake of the discovery of Foster's body, Bernard Nussbaum, White House counsel, denied FBI agents access to Foster's office the day after the suicide and ordered an FBI agent to sit in a chair and remain there while White House officials rummaged through the office. When the agent rose to see what all the noise was about, Nussbaum shouted at him to remain in his chair and warned him not to rise from it again. >There is no explanation of Nussbaum's behavior in the Fiske report. Nussbaum's actions alone ought to be condemned for interfering with the course of an investigation, and they raise further questions about what Foster was involved in and whether that had anything to do with his death. Not insignificantly, Fiske and Nussbaum have had a professional relationship for years, and Nussbaum had even sought Fiske's advice on the names of potential Clinton appointments to the federal bench. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-07-25-9407250337-story.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-07-25-94072...
    - fortuna86 5y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence Again, your conspiracy thinking is taking over. There are problems with a lot of stories, that doesn't make them conspiracies.

wahnfrieden 5y ago

Thanks for your nothing to see here defense of Epstein and his enablers, and the kind reference to his scientific interests

orangepurple 5y ago

The reason people believe in mass cover ups is because of cases such as the death of Vincent Foster which was written off as a regular suicide by all major media publications.

fortuna86 5y ago
There is 0 evidence his death was anything but a suicide, and was ruled so by police. You believe things to be obvious, or as proof of some conspiracy, without evidence. That's a more interesting thing to explore than a single conspiracy.
- orangepurple 5y ago
  There are so many problems with his story. Just one excerpt: >In the wake of the discovery of Foster's body, Bernard Nussbaum, White House counsel, denied FBI agents access to Foster's office the day after the suicide and ordered an FBI agent to sit in a chair and remain there while White House officials rummaged through the office. When the agent rose to see what all the noise was about, Nussbaum shouted at him to remain in his chair and warned him not to rise from it again. >There is no explanation of Nussbaum's behavior in the Fiske report. Nussbaum's actions alone ought to be condemned for interfering with the course of an investigation, and they raise further questions about what Foster was involved in and whether that had anything to do with his death. Not insignificantly, Fiske and Nussbaum have had a professional relationship for years, and Nussbaum had even sought Fiske's advice on the names of potential Clinton appointments to the federal bench. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-07-25-9407250337-story.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1994-07-25-94072...
  - fortuna86 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence Again, your conspiracy thinking is taking over. There are problems with a lot of stories, that doesn't make them conspiracies.