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> any interpretation of reality that sits outside of the general "accepted" media consensus is deemed a "conspiracy theory" Do you think that in the past peopl

> any interpretation of reality that sits outside of the general "accepted" media consensus is deemed a "conspiracy theory" Do you think that in the past people were more acceptant of non-mainstream ideas? Because that sounds quite false, from atheist to homosexuals people was institutionalized for being different. Persecution of communists was a witch hund. Why do you think that "the past was better"?

adamrezich 5y ago
> Why do you think that "the past was better"? I quite literally never said that. this is not my thesis, but you quoted the main part of my thesis, so it's confusing to me why you would quote me saying $X, and then ask me why I believe $Y.
- mistermann 5y ago
  > I quite literally never said that. Demonstrating the validity of your theory. The human mind (and therefore, significant portions of itself) is fairly easily programmable, and while this programming does not work with super high precision, in the aggregate it works wonderfully.
- alphabettsy 5y ago
  You said increasingly in recent years and with the context of the rest of what you said I read that as implying that it’s getting worse, meaning it used to be better.
  - adamrezich 5y ago
    I asked if anyone else noticed the phenomenon I outlined becoming increasingly pervasive. the comment I was replying to drew a correlation between the phenomenon becoming increasingly pervasive as per my allegation and the increasing societal acceptance of homosexuals and atheists, and then asked that, given this, why I preferred the past to the present. this rhetoric is nonsensical. "man it sucks how the US space program isn't as good as it used to be a few decades ago." "well ok but a few decades ago people were more racist and homophobic than they are today, why do you think the past was better?" this is a pretty insulting and non-sequitur response that's very easy to make about just about anything that compares any point in the past to any point in the present, I don't see what it has to do with anything I wrote above, and in fact it seems to sidestep my entire thesis by reframing my argument as "remember the good ol' days when we were more homophobic and religiously intolerant, and also not everything was deemed a 'conspiracy theory'?"
    - alphabettsy 5y ago
      I’m telling you how I read your comment, as was the other person. You’re arguing about how other people understood it instead of trying to clarify your point.
      - adamrezich 5y ago
        what about my point requires clarification?

adamrezich 5y ago

> Why do you think that "the past was better"? I quite literally never said that. this is not my thesis, but you quoted the main part of my thesis, so it's confusing to me why you would quote me saying $X, and then ask me why I believe $Y.

mistermann 5y ago
> I quite literally never said that. Demonstrating the validity of your theory. The human mind (and therefore, significant portions of itself) is fairly easily programmable, and while this programming does not work with super high precision, in the aggregate it works wonderfully.
alphabettsy 5y ago
You said increasingly in recent years and with the context of the rest of what you said I read that as implying that it’s getting worse, meaning it used to be better.
- adamrezich 5y ago
  I asked if anyone else noticed the phenomenon I outlined becoming increasingly pervasive. the comment I was replying to drew a correlation between the phenomenon becoming increasingly pervasive as per my allegation and the increasing societal acceptance of homosexuals and atheists, and then asked that, given this, why I preferred the past to the present. this rhetoric is nonsensical. "man it sucks how the US space program isn't as good as it used to be a few decades ago." "well ok but a few decades ago people were more racist and homophobic than they are today, why do you think the past was better?" this is a pretty insulting and non-sequitur response that's very easy to make about just about anything that compares any point in the past to any point in the present, I don't see what it has to do with anything I wrote above, and in fact it seems to sidestep my entire thesis by reframing my argument as "remember the good ol' days when we were more homophobic and religiously intolerant, and also not everything was deemed a 'conspiracy theory'?"
  - alphabettsy 5y ago
    I’m telling you how I read your comment, as was the other person. You’re arguing about how other people understood it instead of trying to clarify your point.
    - adamrezich 5y ago
      what about my point requires clarification?