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I can't blame someone for believing Q. I can; when they attack the Capitol of the country I live in and kill people. Regardless of what they believe they have

I can't blame someone for believing Q. I can; when they attack the Capitol of the country I live in and kill people. Regardless of what they believe they have crossed a line at that point and that type of behavior can not be forgiven or tolerated in a civilized society.

hunterb123 5y ago
No one besides a cop killed anyone though, or are you thinking of the CHAZ state capitol take over? Jan6th, there were a few deaths, one murder by cop, others were heart attacks and one stampeded I believe. One officer was initially reported as murdered by fire extinguisher but his autopsy came back he had a stroke due to natural causes. I don't believe anyone in J6 was charged with having a gun or even insurrection. They all got slapped with misdemeanors for trespassing. Yeah they shouldn't have been there, but many videos inside just show them talking with cops and taking selfies. -- edit: to user below because I'm at my post limit -- Sicknick is the officer I'm talking about, he died of natural causes, no evidence it was due to pepper spray either. https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-after-suffering-two-strokes-day-after-jan-6-report/ https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-off... > Prosecutors never alleged that the bear spray they allegedly used played a role in Sicknick’s death. > D.C. Medical Examiner Francisco J. Diaz told the Post that the autopsy found no evidence that Sicknick had an allergic reaction to the spray and disclosed to the paper that he did not find evidence of internal or external injuries. Also, shooting an unarmed person is something we were protesting the whole year but on that day it's fine. Both of her hands were shown when she was climbing, he could have arrested her. She had no weapon and was no threat. Remember those weeks where the country was reviewing every police encounter (the guy who stole the taser, the kid who turned with the gun, the girl trying to stab the other girl with the knife) and everyone was debating whether they could have shot them in the leg or something. It just seems when you're on the wrong side it's fine for a cop to shoot you unarmed.
- dane-pgp 5y ago
  > one murder by cop I think the event you are referring to was ruled a "justifiable homicide". Also, you are missing the case of 42 year old Brian Sicknick, a cop who had two strokes and died after being pepper-sprayed during the riot. That wasn't classified as murder, but the medical investigator found that "all that transpired played a role in his condition". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_attack#Casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_att...
- jcranmer 5y ago
  > I don't believe anyone in J6 was charged with having a gun or even insurrection. They all got slapped with misdemeanors for trespassing. Yeah they shouldn't have been there, but many videos inside just show them talking with cops and taking selfies. The full list of charges is here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases Just the 7th entry on that list includes a gun possession charge. A charge for insurrection is unlikely to be brought, as I don't think the events meet the legal definition of insurrection, but sedition charges have been brought (179 search results for "Obstruction of an official proceeding").
- dane-pgp 5y ago
  > the autopsy found no evidence that Sicknick had an allergic reaction to the spray and disclosed to the paper that he did not find evidence of internal or external injuries. I'm not accusing anyone of murder (unlike you did), I'm just saying that if the riot hadn't happened, he probably wouldn't have had those strokes that day. > It just seems when you're on the wrong side it's fine for a cop to shoot you unarmed. Or, more like, when you're trespassing with hundreds of violent criminals, a cop may need to secure a perimeter to protect himself.
saul_goodman 5y ago
Awesome. What about all those "peaceful protestors" that burned our cities all summer last year? Can we agree they all crossed the line too? Can we not forgive them or tolerate them as well?

hunterb123 5y ago

No one besides a cop killed anyone though, or are you thinking of the CHAZ state capitol take over? Jan6th, there were a few deaths, one murder by cop, others were heart attacks and one stampeded I believe. One officer was initially reported as murdered by fire extinguisher but his autopsy came back he had a stroke due to natural causes. I don't believe anyone in J6 was charged with having a gun or even insurrection. They all got slapped with misdemeanors for trespassing. Yeah they shouldn't have been there, but many videos inside just show them talking with cops and taking selfies. -- edit: to user below because I'm at my post limit -- Sicknick is the officer I'm talking about, he died of natural causes, no evidence it was due to pepper spray either. https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-of-natural-causes-after-suffering-two-strokes-day-after-jan-6-report/ https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/capitol-police-off... > Prosecutors never alleged that the bear spray they allegedly used played a role in Sicknick’s death. > D.C. Medical Examiner Francisco J. Diaz told the Post that the autopsy found no evidence that Sicknick had an allergic reaction to the spray and disclosed to the paper that he did not find evidence of internal or external injuries. Also, shooting an unarmed person is something we were protesting the whole year but on that day it's fine. Both of her hands were shown when she was climbing, he could have arrested her. She had no weapon and was no threat. Remember those weeks where the country was reviewing every police encounter (the guy who stole the taser, the kid who turned with the gun, the girl trying to stab the other girl with the knife) and everyone was debating whether they could have shot them in the leg or something. It just seems when you're on the wrong side it's fine for a cop to shoot you unarmed.

dane-pgp 5y ago
> one murder by cop I think the event you are referring to was ruled a "justifiable homicide". Also, you are missing the case of 42 year old Brian Sicknick, a cop who had two strokes and died after being pepper-sprayed during the riot. That wasn't classified as murder, but the medical investigator found that "all that transpired played a role in his condition". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_attack#Casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_att...
jcranmer 5y ago
> I don't believe anyone in J6 was charged with having a gun or even insurrection. They all got slapped with misdemeanors for trespassing. Yeah they shouldn't have been there, but many videos inside just show them talking with cops and taking selfies. The full list of charges is here: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases Just the 7th entry on that list includes a gun possession charge. A charge for insurrection is unlikely to be brought, as I don't think the events meet the legal definition of insurrection, but sedition charges have been brought (179 search results for "Obstruction of an official proceeding").
dane-pgp 5y ago
> the autopsy found no evidence that Sicknick had an allergic reaction to the spray and disclosed to the paper that he did not find evidence of internal or external injuries. I'm not accusing anyone of murder (unlike you did), I'm just saying that if the riot hadn't happened, he probably wouldn't have had those strokes that day. > It just seems when you're on the wrong side it's fine for a cop to shoot you unarmed. Or, more like, when you're trespassing with hundreds of violent criminals, a cop may need to secure a perimeter to protect himself.

saul_goodman 5y ago

Awesome. What about all those "peaceful protestors" that burned our cities all summer last year? Can we agree they all crossed the line too? Can we not forgive them or tolerate them as well?