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Hibernate is my linux pet peeve.

wazoox 5y ago
I had some trouble for a few weeks this year with some AMD graphics firmware (crashing graphics under load after an suspend period), but an update corrected it the day after I began being annoyed enough to begin looking seriously for a solution. It just works. It just worked (but for these few weeks) since I've been using a Linux laptop daily, which is since 2007 or 2008.
zrm 5y ago
Can somebody explain what the purpose of hibernate is in modern day? I get how it was useful in 1995 when ACPI didn't exist. But now it's significantly slower to resume from than S3 suspend, which uses <1 watt, and it wears out your SSD. What is it good for?
- treis 5y ago
  Dual booting is my usecase.
- onemoresoop 5y ago
  The purpose for me is to pause my system and resume without draining any battery juice. I have a portable small dev laptop and when I close the lid it suspends nicely. However, a day or two later when I want to do some work the battery is 80% drained. A few times it even drained completely so when I booted my wifi drivers were corrupted. Had to spend nearly an hour fixing it up. Still loving linux though, it still feels like I'm in control of my machine but as I get older I tend to not want to keep on fixing things all the time, just want it to work.
dyingkneepad 5y ago
Linux dev here, I worked on and fixed lots of Hibernate-related bugs. Abandon all hope: Hibernation (S4 suspend) is absolutely horrible to debug and test, you can't easily put this in a CI system without delaying your testing by 100000%, and hibernating is generally a bad idea since booting is so fast and S3 suspend is also so good these days. Just change your workflow, avoid the pain.
fsflover 5y ago
Just buy hardware designed for Linux. Everything work fine for me.
- zdragnar 5y ago
  I heard such fantastic things about Dell xps and Linux, and that may have been my most-regretted computer purchase of the last 8 years.
  - fsflover 5y ago
    AFAIK Dell still comes with Windows by default, it's not designed for Linux. Consider System76, Purism or similar.
    - zdragnar 5y ago
      The xps line had linux as an option I think, and people raved about it and Linux. I'll never understand why after using it. As much as I would love to support system76, this was for a business that needed a physical storefront that could do fast turnaround on warranty services. There aren't a ton of good options at that point, but of those that do, they don't sell system76 laptops.
- onemoresoop 5y ago
  Are you saying that hibernate works fine with hardware designed for linux?? If so I'd look into it. But the beauty of Linux is that you can take an old machine that barely performs with windows and give it life again under linux
  - fsflover 5y ago
    Yes, hibernate, suspend, external display etc. work fine on my Librem 15.

I had some trouble for a few weeks this year with some AMD graphics firmware (crashing graphics under load after an suspend period), but an update corrected it the day after I began being annoyed enough to begin looking seriously for a solution. It just works. It just worked (but for these few weeks) since I've been using a Linux laptop daily, which is since 2007 or 2008.

zrm 5y ago

Can somebody explain what the purpose of hibernate is in modern day? I get how it was useful in 1995 when ACPI didn't exist. But now it's significantly slower to resume from than S3 suspend, which uses <1 watt, and it wears out your SSD. What is it good for?

treis 5y ago
Dual booting is my usecase.
onemoresoop 5y ago
The purpose for me is to pause my system and resume without draining any battery juice. I have a portable small dev laptop and when I close the lid it suspends nicely. However, a day or two later when I want to do some work the battery is 80% drained. A few times it even drained completely so when I booted my wifi drivers were corrupted. Had to spend nearly an hour fixing it up. Still loving linux though, it still feels like I'm in control of my machine but as I get older I tend to not want to keep on fixing things all the time, just want it to work.

dyingkneepad 5y ago

Linux dev here, I worked on and fixed lots of Hibernate-related bugs. Abandon all hope: Hibernation (S4 suspend) is absolutely horrible to debug and test, you can't easily put this in a CI system without delaying your testing by 100000%, and hibernating is generally a bad idea since booting is so fast and S3 suspend is also so good these days. Just change your workflow, avoid the pain.

fsflover 5y ago

Just buy hardware designed for Linux. Everything work fine for me.

zdragnar 5y ago
I heard such fantastic things about Dell xps and Linux, and that may have been my most-regretted computer purchase of the last 8 years.
- fsflover 5y ago
  AFAIK Dell still comes with Windows by default, it's not designed for Linux. Consider System76, Purism or similar.
  - zdragnar 5y ago
    The xps line had linux as an option I think, and people raved about it and Linux. I'll never understand why after using it. As much as I would love to support system76, this was for a business that needed a physical storefront that could do fast turnaround on warranty services. There aren't a ton of good options at that point, but of those that do, they don't sell system76 laptops.
onemoresoop 5y ago
Are you saying that hibernate works fine with hardware designed for linux?? If so I'd look into it. But the beauty of Linux is that you can take an old machine that barely performs with windows and give it life again under linux
- fsflover 5y ago
  Yes, hibernate, suspend, external display etc. work fine on my Librem 15.