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I've read the books but so long ago I forgot almost all about it (I remember the sandworms and that I liked it). What did you feel left behind about?

nervousvarun 5y ago
Perspective of books reader/movies watcher but wife hasn't read the books: The "big picture politics" of the Landsraad coupled with the power of the Guild and Bene Geserit...is the biggest thing missing. It's all only hinted at. When you read the books you realize how all these different factions sortof work as checks and balances on each other. If you haven't read the books, it just seems like it would be impossible to understand why anything is happening "big picture". It just seems like bad stuff is happening to the good guys.
pferdone 5y ago
The Bene Gesserit was something I couldn't quite get a grip on, the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have, when they came to Arrakis, the different houses and their relationships... I had a lot of moments where felt I was missing context, because the scenes presented themself as "important" but I couldn't figure it out in that moment. Sometimes later in the movie some context was given, but during those scenes I felt "lost". I will certainly give it rewatch, maybe even read the books now.
- throw0101a 5y ago
  > the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have, when they came to Arrakis In the modern age we don't have much 'pomp and circumstance', but in an aristocratic society that generally tends to be more prevalent. It helps to show people's place in the hierarchy of things. See for example the "Sir Jean" scene from The Last Duel (set in 1386): * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEoUgrOxHfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEoUgrOxHfc
- kofejnik 5y ago
  >the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have I feel they should have had about two orders of magnitude more than that, they're the rulers from the stars, appointed by the emperor, they rule multiple worlds and have interstellar ships, and are some of the most important people in the whole Empire. This was my biggest disappointment with the movie - they rule many worlds, but it doesn't feel that way from how they're treated. They don't vet even their closest people (like, for real, you don't know your personal doc has his family held hostage by your enemy?). Some mid-level businessmen in Russia probably have better security setup than the House of Atreides; and their posse is more fitting for some aging Hollywood actor. Seriously, they just go move to the new planet, no planetary patrols, border guards, space legions, no nothing - really cavalier about the whole thing, all while fully expecting their rivals to attack. No wonder they got caught with their pants down basically.
  - karpierz 5y ago
    This is something they fail to explain in the movie, but the reason that the doctor is so trusted is because he comes from a school of indoctrinated physicians thought to be psychologically incapable of harm.

nervousvarun 5y ago

Perspective of books reader/movies watcher but wife hasn't read the books: The "big picture politics" of the Landsraad coupled with the power of the Guild and Bene Geserit...is the biggest thing missing. It's all only hinted at. When you read the books you realize how all these different factions sortof work as checks and balances on each other. If you haven't read the books, it just seems like it would be impossible to understand why anything is happening "big picture". It just seems like bad stuff is happening to the good guys.

pferdone 5y ago

The Bene Gesserit was something I couldn't quite get a grip on, the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have, when they came to Arrakis, the different houses and their relationships... I had a lot of moments where felt I was missing context, because the scenes presented themself as "important" but I couldn't figure it out in that moment. Sometimes later in the movie some context was given, but during those scenes I felt "lost". I will certainly give it rewatch, maybe even read the books now.

throw0101a 5y ago
> the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have, when they came to Arrakis In the modern age we don't have much 'pomp and circumstance', but in an aristocratic society that generally tends to be more prevalent. It helps to show people's place in the hierarchy of things. See for example the "Sir Jean" scene from The Last Duel (set in 1386): * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEoUgrOxHfc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEoUgrOxHfc
kofejnik 5y ago
>the gravitas house Atreides' arrival seemed to have I feel they should have had about two orders of magnitude more than that, they're the rulers from the stars, appointed by the emperor, they rule multiple worlds and have interstellar ships, and are some of the most important people in the whole Empire. This was my biggest disappointment with the movie - they rule many worlds, but it doesn't feel that way from how they're treated. They don't vet even their closest people (like, for real, you don't know your personal doc has his family held hostage by your enemy?). Some mid-level businessmen in Russia probably have better security setup than the House of Atreides; and their posse is more fitting for some aging Hollywood actor. Seriously, they just go move to the new planet, no planetary patrols, border guards, space legions, no nothing - really cavalier about the whole thing, all while fully expecting their rivals to attack. No wonder they got caught with their pants down basically.
- karpierz 5y ago
  This is something they fail to explain in the movie, but the reason that the doctor is so trusted is because he comes from a school of indoctrinated physicians thought to be psychologically incapable of harm.