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This seems incredibly unlikely to be true - if 34% of students lied, and 48% of people who lied claimed to be Native American, then ~17% of college students sho
by enoch_r 5y ago
This seems incredibly unlikely to be true - if 34% of students lied, and 48% of people who lied claimed to be Native American, then ~17% of college students should be Native American. Which they're not, suggesting that this is probably bullshit.
EDIT: Yes, this really seems extremely fishy, see: https://twitter.com/Daniel_Laurison/status/1453026929511055363 https://twitter.com/Daniel_Laurison/status/14530269295110553...
> here's a quick reality check that
@insidehighered
could have done - took me under a minute to find this report. Less than 1% of applicants using the Common App said they were Native American in the 2 states I've looked at so far.
> Ok ok, on a bit of further reflection if this (48% of 34% of white applicants say they're native american) were accurate it wouldn't be 17% of all apps, it would be 17% of all apps that SHOULD say white. Which is at least 53% of all apps, probably more.
> 0.48×0.34×0.53 = 0.86 = at least 8.6% of all apps should claim to be NA (or 2 or more races). More to the point, if 34% of white applicants are saying they're not white, you'd expect some over-reprentation of "non-white" applicants, which is not what you see.
More here, same conclusion: https://twitter.com/JonBoeckenstedt/status/1452864922765783045 https://twitter.com/JonBoeckenstedt/status/14528649227657830...
- robotbikes 5y agoAll I needed to see was "conducted online by survey platform Pollfish". I don't know much about Pollfish but I am very suspect of online polling due to the challenge of finding representative sample sets.
- chuckee 5y agoThank you for the fast catch. Since it was still within the edit window, I've tagged the story as likely fake.
- newacct583 5y agoYeah, this is straight up journalistic malpractice by Intelligent.com. Publishing facts that are clearly contradicted by more reliable, obviously available facts is going way beyond gutter clickbaitery and veering straight off into propaganda. I look forward to having to correct this misconception in the coming years as it gets repeated ad nauseum by people who "saw it on the internet".
- 1ibsq 5y agoWe don't have to search for long. All it takes is scrolling down and see what it has stirred up (I'm not talking about the generality, but some individuals and what kind of a discussion rose from all this).