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This is python, not Microsoft we are talking about

clxzzz 5y ago
Contributors can be extinguished after they have done their duty. One of the most famous contributors ever spoke about "minibosses" the last time he was seen dealing with the Python core bureaucrats. The situation is even worse now.
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  Can you give us more details about this ? Do you have a particular story in mind ? It seems a lot of fresh blood is comming to the python project recently, so I'm interested in what you have to say. But why are you using a throwaway account ? And that you that have been answering the other comments with also newly created accounts ?
  - WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
    I can share the sentiment that PSF and the core team has become something like “old boys club”, and no, new core developers didn’t change this ambience you get when you read their forums/mailing lists and twitters (better avoid twitters though). I don’t have anything about a community being an old boys’ club (would be nice to be in one some day, I reckon it’s what older people’s equivalent of a “safe space” is), it’s that they try hard to pretend they are something else that irks me. But for the life of me I couldn’t find “python” and “minibosses” mentioned in the same document on the internet, except for an integration testing package and a computer game. So I think the story alluded to is bogus. There’s a minuscule likelihood of it all being a twitter drama with key characters then nuking their tweets or deleting their accounts, but if it was of any significance some blog would have echoed it.
    - ammar2 5y ago
      The only reference I can find to "minibosses" is this ancient python-dev thread here (https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-July/015712.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-July/01571...) > I'd prefer if you didn't feel the need to play miniboss on the Python project Disclosure: I am a current core dev

Contributors can be extinguished after they have done their duty. One of the most famous contributors ever spoke about "minibosses" the last time he was seen dealing with the Python core bureaucrats. The situation is even worse now.

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
Can you give us more details about this ? Do you have a particular story in mind ? It seems a lot of fresh blood is comming to the python project recently, so I'm interested in what you have to say. But why are you using a throwaway account ? And that you that have been answering the other comments with also newly created accounts ?
- WesolyKubeczek 5y ago
  I can share the sentiment that PSF and the core team has become something like “old boys club”, and no, new core developers didn’t change this ambience you get when you read their forums/mailing lists and twitters (better avoid twitters though). I don’t have anything about a community being an old boys’ club (would be nice to be in one some day, I reckon it’s what older people’s equivalent of a “safe space” is), it’s that they try hard to pretend they are something else that irks me. But for the life of me I couldn’t find “python” and “minibosses” mentioned in the same document on the internet, except for an integration testing package and a computer game. So I think the story alluded to is bogus. There’s a minuscule likelihood of it all being a twitter drama with key characters then nuking their tweets or deleting their accounts, but if it was of any significance some blog would have echoed it.
  - ammar2 5y ago
    The only reference I can find to "minibosses" is this ancient python-dev thread here (https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-July/015712.html https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2001-July/01571...) > I'd prefer if you didn't feel the need to play miniboss on the Python project Disclosure: I am a current core dev