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> Yes, you need a PCR test every 180 days to get the certificate, but it's the same certificate as if you had a vaccine. You should read your own source. Even

by nuerow 5y ago

> Yes, you need a PCR test every 180 days to get the certificate, but it's the same certificate as if you had a vaccine. You should read your own source. Even though the swiss COVID certificate applies to those who "have had a COVID-19 vaccination, have had and recovered from the disease or have tested negative", neither case is treated the same at all. You already admitted that by referring to the additional requirements for those who did not took the vaccine, such as a series of mandatory tests. [1] https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/covid-zertifikat/covid-zertifikat-grundlagen.html https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-...

rsj_hn 5y ago
So now I am confused. How are they treated differently other than requiring the PCR test twice a year? You just keep saying "you should read your own source" with increasing hostility but no actual argument that says the individual without a vaccine but with the bi-annual PCR test is treated differently in any meaningful way. Honestly there is a lot of bluster and emotion in your responses, and I'm having a hard time extracting signal from noise. Lots of people in the EU who had covid are doing just fine with getting biannual PCR tests and don't need to get a vaccine as they can get the covid certificate and have access to the same things as someone with a vaccine.
- nuerow 5y ago
  > So now I am confused. How are they treated differently other than requiring the PCR test twice a year? Please read your own source, particularly the section on "I am not vaccinated or recently recovered from COVID-19. What should I bear in mind?". They are quite clear in stating the additional requirements for continuous testing, both before and after entering Switzerland. Fully vaccinated travellers do not have to deal with nothing of the sort. Don't you agree that imposing entirely different sets of requirements to those who are not vaccinated demonstrates that vaccinated and non-vaccinated but recovered from Covid is a clear indication that both cases are indeed not classified, and treated, the same?
  - rsj_hn 5y ago
    the "recently recovered from covid" is the 180 day PCR test case, because it's defined as having a positive antibody test in the last 180 days ("recently"). So no I am not going to apply the section that is not relevant to those who have recovered with a positive antibody test in the last 6 months. By reading the wrong section, you've come to the wrong conclusion as to how the recovered are treated.
- freshpots 5y ago
  "So now I am confused." We can tell. It is as if you are comprehending none of it and talking right past them.

by nuerow 5y ago

rsj_hn 5y ago

So now I am confused. How are they treated differently other than requiring the PCR test twice a year? You just keep saying "you should read your own source" with increasing hostility but no actual argument that says the individual without a vaccine but with the bi-annual PCR test is treated differently in any meaningful way. Honestly there is a lot of bluster and emotion in your responses, and I'm having a hard time extracting signal from noise. Lots of people in the EU who had covid are doing just fine with getting biannual PCR tests and don't need to get a vaccine as they can get the covid certificate and have access to the same things as someone with a vaccine.

nuerow 5y ago
> So now I am confused. How are they treated differently other than requiring the PCR test twice a year? Please read your own source, particularly the section on "I am not vaccinated or recently recovered from COVID-19. What should I bear in mind?". They are quite clear in stating the additional requirements for continuous testing, both before and after entering Switzerland. Fully vaccinated travellers do not have to deal with nothing of the sort. Don't you agree that imposing entirely different sets of requirements to those who are not vaccinated demonstrates that vaccinated and non-vaccinated but recovered from Covid is a clear indication that both cases are indeed not classified, and treated, the same?
- rsj_hn 5y ago
  the "recently recovered from covid" is the 180 day PCR test case, because it's defined as having a positive antibody test in the last 180 days ("recently"). So no I am not going to apply the section that is not relevant to those who have recovered with a positive antibody test in the last 6 months. By reading the wrong section, you've come to the wrong conclusion as to how the recovered are treated.
freshpots 5y ago
"So now I am confused." We can tell. It is as if you are comprehending none of it and talking right past them.