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There's nothing better than knowing everything and never having to play around with settings to discover what they do, never forgetting what you've set your set

There's nothing better than knowing everything and never having to play around with settings to discover what they do, never forgetting what you've set your settings to, and not having children, family members, or friends do the same. There's no way any reasonable person could ever have their uploads accidentally turned on without their full knowledge and consent so that definitely invalidates any reason to argue against the idea that client-side scanning is unreasonable because it only happens to things that you wanted to upload anyway. There's definitely no way a new version could patch your system and turn something on without your knowledge. No, there's absolutely never been a situation where some new setting has shown up and you didn't know what it does or inspected what it was set to by default. And there's absolutely no way you could have restored a backup and not had all of your settings transfer over correctly. No, there's no way you'll ever turn the setting on and forget that it's on when you plug your device into some network. And you know you will never be the victim of any malicious activity that could screw you over in some way. You've never had some app automatically connect to something that you didn't know it could even connect to. You'll never have someone else pick up your phone and take random pictures or recordings that you don't know about because those would never get automatically uploaded because, of course, you didn't turn on that setting for yourself. You'll never have to worry about your battery going low because you turned on automatic uploads and not only did your upload happen but your device also scanned your uploads too. You never use your phone for work because your work definitely pays for a new device for you to use for work. Gosh it sure is weird hat so many people don't want client-side scanning. Scanning your device before uploading anything is just a very reasonable thing to do. /s

dylan604 5y ago
I don't want client side scanning, and I don't want the cloud. If only wishing made it so. People not being able to understand the devices they use is why devs have gotten us to this point. People are too uneducated to do proper back ups, so some enterprising people came up with a way to do that for you. Peeps still get it wrong. Some other asshats come along and take advantage of uneducated people, and do malicious stuff. Fuck 'em. We should just end the cloud because we as a society can't handle it or the responsibility of operating our own equipment. /s
jodrellblank 5y ago
With server side scanning, if someone accidentally enables uploading you are in exactly the same position. It being enabled on upload, which side it runs changes nothing in all the scenarios you are sarcastically ranting about.
- inetknght 5y ago
  > It being enabled on upload, which side it runs changes nothing in all the scenarios you are sarcastically ranting about. You're wrong because at the very minimum it means that my device's battery isn't consumed for the scanning. Further, enabling uploading won't work if the cloud account is full (as is currently the case). Turning off connectivity prevents the upload and scanning from occurring.
  - jodrellblank 5y ago
    > Further, enabling uploading won't work if the cloud account is full (as is currently the case). > Turning off connectivity prevents the upload and scanning from occurring. Client side scanning which happens as part of the upload, so these apply to that as well as to server-side scanning. So your complaint is only "battery life"?
    - inetknght 5y ago
      > So your complaint is only "battery life"? No. Way to miss the forest for the trees. Go read the whole thread.
      - jodrellblank 5y ago
        OK, I've re-read your complaints about client-side scanning which also apply equally to server-side scanning in every way except battery life, and I've noticed you also incorrectly frame "scanning your device before uploading anything" which it doesn't do, it scans only the things being uploaded not the whole device and as part of the upload. You either misunderstand it or are deliberately being misleading about it. The only complaint that you have made which stands is battery-life.

dylan604 5y ago

I don't want client side scanning, and I don't want the cloud. If only wishing made it so. People not being able to understand the devices they use is why devs have gotten us to this point. People are too uneducated to do proper back ups, so some enterprising people came up with a way to do that for you. Peeps still get it wrong. Some other asshats come along and take advantage of uneducated people, and do malicious stuff. Fuck 'em. We should just end the cloud because we as a society can't handle it or the responsibility of operating our own equipment. /s

jodrellblank 5y ago

With server side scanning, if someone accidentally enables uploading you are in exactly the same position. It being enabled on upload, which side it runs changes nothing in all the scenarios you are sarcastically ranting about.

inetknght 5y ago
> It being enabled on upload, which side it runs changes nothing in all the scenarios you are sarcastically ranting about. You're wrong because at the very minimum it means that my device's battery isn't consumed for the scanning. Further, enabling uploading won't work if the cloud account is full (as is currently the case). Turning off connectivity prevents the upload and scanning from occurring.
- jodrellblank 5y ago
  > Further, enabling uploading won't work if the cloud account is full (as is currently the case). > Turning off connectivity prevents the upload and scanning from occurring. Client side scanning which happens as part of the upload, so these apply to that as well as to server-side scanning. So your complaint is only "battery life"?
  - inetknght 5y ago
    > So your complaint is only "battery life"? No. Way to miss the forest for the trees. Go read the whole thread.
    - jodrellblank 5y ago
      OK, I've re-read your complaints about client-side scanning which also apply equally to server-side scanning in every way except battery life, and I've noticed you also incorrectly frame "scanning your device before uploading anything" which it doesn't do, it scans only the things being uploaded not the whole device and as part of the upload. You either misunderstand it or are deliberately being misleading about it. The only complaint that you have made which stands is battery-life.