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I don't know anything about this, can someone provide context on why this post is getting so downvoted, the sources they are providing look very reliable

detaro 5y ago
How do these sources support vaccination being "murderous"? Saying it's only a bit worse than the flu is also a bit odd in this context, given the CDC recommends flu vaccinations for "everyone ages six months and older"? "reliable sources" should also support the argument being made.
r00fus 5y ago
Death is only one measure of difficulty. Long COVID is real and it affects kids too. It's estimated [1] that millions have symptoms that have lasted many months (1 out of 3 infected) [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003773 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...
cwmma 5y ago
because kids not dying of covid misses the point, they can still spread it, plus those kids that have complex underlying conditions due need the vaccine and this would allow them to get it.
standardUser 5y ago
Calling this vaccine "murderous" should earn plenty of downvotes, given that it has killed precisely no one despite a few hundred millions doses going out so far.
- xx511134bz 5y ago
  Deaths are being covered up, you're not looking very hard. https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/45-year-old-fbi-special-agent-dies-less-than-24-hours-after-receiving-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/ https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/45-year-old-fbi-special-agent... go ahead and flag this you liars
  - standardUser 5y ago
    You are asserting a massive conspiracy that would involve countless doctors, researchers, public health officials and virtually the entirely of the media across a hundred different countries. And the evidence you provide is a website I could make in a weekend.
    - beerandt 5y ago
      Without defending that source... There's no "conspiracy" needed: Anyone who gets COVID and is either hospitalized or dies before/within 14 days of the second shot goes in the "unvaccinated" bucket, with no consideration for whether they were recently vaccinated. They obviously track days since vaccination to be able to filter that 14 day period out, yet I haven't seen any public disclosures of any data. It's suspicious in the same way that natural immunity efficacy studies were basically off-limits until the Israeli data publication.

detaro 5y ago

How do these sources support vaccination being "murderous"? Saying it's only a bit worse than the flu is also a bit odd in this context, given the CDC recommends flu vaccinations for "everyone ages six months and older"? "reliable sources" should also support the argument being made.

r00fus 5y ago

Death is only one measure of difficulty. Long COVID is real and it affects kids too. It's estimated [1] that millions have symptoms that have lasted many months (1 out of 3 infected) [1] https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1003773 https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/jo...

cwmma 5y ago

because kids not dying of covid misses the point, they can still spread it, plus those kids that have complex underlying conditions due need the vaccine and this would allow them to get it.

standardUser 5y ago

Calling this vaccine "murderous" should earn plenty of downvotes, given that it has killed precisely no one despite a few hundred millions doses going out so far.

xx511134bz 5y ago
Deaths are being covered up, you're not looking very hard. https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/45-year-old-fbi-special-agent-dies-less-than-24-hours-after-receiving-the-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine/ https://vaccineimpact.com/2021/45-year-old-fbi-special-agent... go ahead and flag this you liars
- standardUser 5y ago
  You are asserting a massive conspiracy that would involve countless doctors, researchers, public health officials and virtually the entirely of the media across a hundred different countries. And the evidence you provide is a website I could make in a weekend.
  - beerandt 5y ago
    Without defending that source... There's no "conspiracy" needed: Anyone who gets COVID and is either hospitalized or dies before/within 14 days of the second shot goes in the "unvaccinated" bucket, with no consideration for whether they were recently vaccinated. They obviously track days since vaccination to be able to filter that 14 day period out, yet I haven't seen any public disclosures of any data. It's suspicious in the same way that natural immunity efficacy studies were basically off-limits until the Israeli data publication.