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>In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or militar

>In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or military facilities, it's so rare that it commands attention. Your assertion is a reasonable one, especially as it doesn't claim that specific numbers of people participate in a particular behavior. However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" That assertion can't be supported by facts/data AFAIK. I suppose you could argue that GP was being hyperbolic, but as the old saw goes, "claims require evidence and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Take from that what you will.

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
> However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking. That's as may be. But as a smoker, I took offense to their characterization of me. Call it whatever you like, but I don't appreciate being berated -- especially when such insults aren't valid. As I said, take from that what you will.
  - surge 5y ago
    Great, you're in the 10%, but if you know other smokers, you know they throw their butts on the ground at least some of the time, I've seen smokers do it when a receptacle was 5 feet away. I was being hyperbolic, but having witnessed thousands of smokers in my lifetime, especially from when I was young, I'm pretty sure I have a decent sample size. All of them threw their butts on the ground, giving them 10% that didn't was being generous to people like you, which are basically unicorns as far as I'm concerned.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      You're painting a whole bunch of people you don't know with a broad brush. I hate people who do that.
      - WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
        Doesn't mean he's wrong.

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago

> However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking.

nobody9999 5y ago
>This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking. That's as may be. But as a smoker, I took offense to their characterization of me. Call it whatever you like, but I don't appreciate being berated -- especially when such insults aren't valid. As I said, take from that what you will.
- surge 5y ago
  Great, you're in the 10%, but if you know other smokers, you know they throw their butts on the ground at least some of the time, I've seen smokers do it when a receptacle was 5 feet away. I was being hyperbolic, but having witnessed thousands of smokers in my lifetime, especially from when I was young, I'm pretty sure I have a decent sample size. All of them threw their butts on the ground, giving them 10% that didn't was being generous to people like you, which are basically unicorns as far as I'm concerned.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    You're painting a whole bunch of people you don't know with a broad brush. I hate people who do that.
    - WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
      Doesn't mean he's wrong.