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This is either a Trojan horse or an exercise in self-aggrandizing pomposity. What is this about “not breaking your NDAs” with Facebook? If you had integrity th

This is either a Trojan horse or an exercise in self-aggrandizing pomposity. What is this about “not breaking your NDAs” with Facebook? If you had integrity the NDAs wouldn’t matter, because no moral framework is constrained by respecting an arbitrary document drafted by a megacorporation to keep you silent. When your first move is to assuage any fears from your former employer that you might do something as drastic as break your NDA, it’s obvious your priorities are nowhere near where you claim them to be. So the question becomes, is this intentional dishonesty, or lack of self-awareness? I suspect a bit of both. Don’t tell me what integrity means. Edit: Apparently I read this wrong, and they haven’t actually quit their jobs? So this is just a cartel of self-righteous employees at tech corps with plans to maximize efficiency of collaborative deplatforming? Lol!!!

colpabar 5y ago
The line about the one founder taking a job with the DNC was enough for me, but I'm glad I read until this part because I think it's even more illuminating: >"Frances is exposing a lot of the knobs in the machine that is a modern social media platform," Massachi said. "Now that people know that those knobs exist, we can start having a conversation about what is the science of how these work, what these knobs do and why you would want to turn them in which direction." Which I translated to: >Now that someone else has broken their NDA, we can use our jobs that we are not quitting to make more money.
- zasz 5y ago
  I don't know about Jeff, but I know Sahar quit working at Facebook over a year ago to work on this instead.
  - sayhar 5y ago
    Yep! We both quit FB in 2019. This has been our (full time, volunteer, spending our savings) job since ~Jan/Feb of this year. It's taken a long time to gather people, build trust, figure out our strategy, find consensus, make our first reports, etc.
thr0wawayf00 5y ago
> If you had integrity the NDAs wouldn’t matter, because no moral framework is constrained by respecting an arbitrary document drafted by a megacorporation to keep you silent. The desire to not spend the next several years mired in lawsuits brought by a company that can hire an army of lawyers doesn't need to be explained by a moral framework. Wouldn't you rather spend that time being an activist instead of sitting in the courtroom, wondering if you're going to survive the financial fallout?
stainforth 5y ago
The recent whistleblower has also been suggested to be a tactic to control and set the terms of the concern about Facebook, utlimately not challenging its reach as a monopoly but to allow for certain censorship actions that facebook would be more than happy to oblige to do.
- sayhar 5y ago
  You really think Frances is a deep cover op by Facebook? Really? Wow.

colpabar 5y ago

The line about the one founder taking a job with the DNC was enough for me, but I'm glad I read until this part because I think it's even more illuminating: >"Frances is exposing a lot of the knobs in the machine that is a modern social media platform," Massachi said. "Now that people know that those knobs exist, we can start having a conversation about what is the science of how these work, what these knobs do and why you would want to turn them in which direction." Which I translated to: >Now that someone else has broken their NDA, we can use our jobs that we are not quitting to make more money.

zasz 5y ago
I don't know about Jeff, but I know Sahar quit working at Facebook over a year ago to work on this instead.
- sayhar 5y ago
  Yep! We both quit FB in 2019. This has been our (full time, volunteer, spending our savings) job since ~Jan/Feb of this year. It's taken a long time to gather people, build trust, figure out our strategy, find consensus, make our first reports, etc.

thr0wawayf00 5y ago

> If you had integrity the NDAs wouldn’t matter, because no moral framework is constrained by respecting an arbitrary document drafted by a megacorporation to keep you silent. The desire to not spend the next several years mired in lawsuits brought by a company that can hire an army of lawyers doesn't need to be explained by a moral framework. Wouldn't you rather spend that time being an activist instead of sitting in the courtroom, wondering if you're going to survive the financial fallout?

stainforth 5y ago

The recent whistleblower has also been suggested to be a tactic to control and set the terms of the concern about Facebook, utlimately not challenging its reach as a monopoly but to allow for certain censorship actions that facebook would be more than happy to oblige to do.

sayhar 5y ago
You really think Frances is a deep cover op by Facebook? Really? Wow.