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>at least 90% of smokers are like this Please provide a source of data for this assertion. Thanks!

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
Things that are universally witnessed have low need of citation. In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or military facilities, it's so rare that it commands attention.
- nobody9999 5y ago
  >In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or military facilities, it's so rare that it commands attention. Your assertion is a reasonable one, especially as it doesn't claim that specific numbers of people participate in a particular behavior. However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" That assertion can't be supported by facts/data AFAIK. I suppose you could argue that GP was being hyperbolic, but as the old saw goes, "claims require evidence and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Take from that what you will.
  - WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
    > However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking.
    - nobody9999 5y ago
      >This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking. That's as may be. But as a smoker, I took offense to their characterization of me. Call it whatever you like, but I don't appreciate being berated -- especially when such insults aren't valid. As I said, take from that what you will.
      - surge 5y ago
        Great, you're in the 10%, but if you know other smokers, you know they throw their butts on the ground at least some of the time, I've seen smokers do it when a receptacle was 5 feet away. I was being hyperbolic, but having witnessed thousands of smokers in my lifetime, especially from when I was young, I'm pretty sure I have a decent sample size. All of them threw their butts on the ground, giving them 10% that didn't was being generous to people like you, which are basically unicorns as far as I'm concerned.
        nobody9999 5y ago
        You're painting a whole bunch of people you don't know with a broad brush. I hate people who do that.
        WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
        Doesn't mean he's wrong.

Things that are universally witnessed have low need of citation. In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or military facilities, it's so rare that it commands attention.

nobody9999 5y ago
>In this case it seems unlikely that >10% of smokers consistently transport their butts as long as it takes to find a receptacle. Outside of Scouting or military facilities, it's so rare that it commands attention. Your assertion is a reasonable one, especially as it doesn't claim that specific numbers of people participate in a particular behavior. However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" That assertion can't be supported by facts/data AFAIK. I suppose you could argue that GP was being hyperbolic, but as the old saw goes, "claims require evidence and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Take from that what you will.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  > However, GP stated unequivocally that "at least 90% of smokers are like this" This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking.
  - nobody9999 5y ago
    >This seems like a technical gotcha that has little to do with his overall point. Not all low-hanging fruit is worth picking. That's as may be. But as a smoker, I took offense to their characterization of me. Call it whatever you like, but I don't appreciate being berated -- especially when such insults aren't valid. As I said, take from that what you will.
    - surge 5y ago
      Great, you're in the 10%, but if you know other smokers, you know they throw their butts on the ground at least some of the time, I've seen smokers do it when a receptacle was 5 feet away. I was being hyperbolic, but having witnessed thousands of smokers in my lifetime, especially from when I was young, I'm pretty sure I have a decent sample size. All of them threw their butts on the ground, giving them 10% that didn't was being generous to people like you, which are basically unicorns as far as I'm concerned.
      - nobody9999 5y ago
        You're painting a whole bunch of people you don't know with a broad brush. I hate people who do that.
        WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
        Doesn't mean he's wrong.