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One thing I didn't spot, does this tier allow you to use a custom domain name on Matrix, or will you be :matrix.org still? $5/mo is an interesting price point f

One thing I didn't spot, does this tier allow you to use a custom domain name on Matrix, or will you be :matrix.org still? $5/mo is an interesting price point for me if it can do that, I don't need the bridges but I could support the project this way.

jakecopp 5y ago
I believe this tier only lets you use the new ...one.ems.host domain [1]. Element Home pricing might be better for you if you have a few friends who are also interested ($10/month for 5 users), and won't use bridges [2]. [1]: https://matrix.org/blog/category/this-week-in-matrix#element-one https://matrix.org/blog/category/this-week-in-matrix#element... [2]: https://element.io/personal-plans https://element.io/personal-plans
- Ndymium 5y ago
  Sadly I don't have a single friend on Matrix that I could consider doing this with, and it's unlikely I could convince my wife to use it either. So it would be double the money for only that piece of flair.
  - rglullis 5y ago
    You don't need to convince your wife to switch, you can start by helping her setup the app on her phone and tell her to use this app when talking to you. Lower the stakes and the expectations. Even if she is starting conversations with you on any other app, you can still start the conversations on Element. There will be bugs and quirks she will find, you just offer help and ask her for patience. With time, they get used to the app and will be okay with starting the conversation with you there. That's what I did with my wife, my parents, closer family and friends. Then you get one day like the recent Facebook outage, and they will come to you to ask if you can help their friends to sign up to it. Slow and steady is the way I found to run this race. I already managed to get rid of WhatsApp and Messenger on my phone, it's only telegram for the odd group chat that is still resisting a full change.
andrewaylett 5y ago
Element's regular matrix services are bring-your-own-domain, and I use them for our family's hosting. Unfortunately it seems they've decided that bring-your-own-domain is a feature for companies, and also given it "contact sales" pricing. The plan I'm on pre-dates "Element Home" and sits at the same price-point. Unfortunately a side-effect of the split is that I can't use the new bridging product without moving back to a shared domain, and the billing model for bridges on custom domains really doesn't work for consumers, at $0.50 per month per person who talks to you. The newer products are good upgrades for someone on the regular matrix.org server, but not so good for people who already upgraded :P.

jakecopp 5y ago

I believe this tier only lets you use the new ...one.ems.host domain [1]. Element Home pricing might be better for you if you have a few friends who are also interested ($10/month for 5 users), and won't use bridges [2]. [1]: https://matrix.org/blog/category/this-week-in-matrix#element-one https://matrix.org/blog/category/this-week-in-matrix#element... [2]: https://element.io/personal-plans https://element.io/personal-plans

Ndymium 5y ago
Sadly I don't have a single friend on Matrix that I could consider doing this with, and it's unlikely I could convince my wife to use it either. So it would be double the money for only that piece of flair.
- rglullis 5y ago
  You don't need to convince your wife to switch, you can start by helping her setup the app on her phone and tell her to use this app when talking to you. Lower the stakes and the expectations. Even if she is starting conversations with you on any other app, you can still start the conversations on Element. There will be bugs and quirks she will find, you just offer help and ask her for patience. With time, they get used to the app and will be okay with starting the conversation with you there. That's what I did with my wife, my parents, closer family and friends. Then you get one day like the recent Facebook outage, and they will come to you to ask if you can help their friends to sign up to it. Slow and steady is the way I found to run this race. I already managed to get rid of WhatsApp and Messenger on my phone, it's only telegram for the odd group chat that is still resisting a full change.

andrewaylett 5y ago

Element's regular matrix services are bring-your-own-domain, and I use them for our family's hosting. Unfortunately it seems they've decided that bring-your-own-domain is a feature for companies, and also given it "contact sales" pricing. The plan I'm on pre-dates "Element Home" and sits at the same price-point. Unfortunately a side-effect of the split is that I can't use the new bridging product without moving back to a shared domain, and the billing model for bridges on custom domains really doesn't work for consumers, at $0.50 per month per person who talks to you. The newer products are good upgrades for someone on the regular matrix.org server, but not so good for people who already upgraded :P.