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I see an important part of the debate is recognising there are two distinct parts to privacy Secrecy is where you prevent others from having knowledge of a pie
by lifeisstillgood 5y ago
I see an important part of the debate is recognising there are two distinct parts to privacy
Secrecy is where you prevent others from having knowledge of a piece of data, or explicitly share it with a limited set of others whom have the same ability to shield the knowledge.
This is not privacy obviously.
1. loss of control of knowledge.
This is often the bit we worry about. We want to keep control over our data and data about us. But mostly this ship has sailed. Even if there was some reduction in tracking cookies and so on, the usefulness of widespread data collection (from traffic warnings to epidemiology) is enough for most of us to want those benefits in society
2. loss arising from others knowledge or use of data
To me this is the kicker. The use by others of our non-secret data-about-us should be at the level of medical data - held and used in the patients best interests.
We are entering a world of trolley problems - from how to code driverless cars reactions to what is an is not acceptable use of private data.
We need to recognise there is huge upside value in the tracking that happens now (and I hope we will see those benefits whatever) but there are pollution-like downsides and we can massively limit those.
The cost benefit analysis should make society judge the loss of a few million(#) in advertising revenue worth this
(#) I am dubious about the value assigned to privacy-breaching tracking to drive advertising versus say using the words people type in a search alone to give them a result.
- moffkalast 5y agoI think the medical data example is interesting. Right now where I live medical records are kept in physical cardboard form only in the name of patient confidentiality. So in effect if you go to a new doctor, or get into the ER unconscious they'll have no on-hand data on who you are, what are your allergies or pre-existing conditions. They might actually accidentally kill you over privacy ideals.
- lifeisstillgood 5y agoYes. But we lack two things to make that paper to digital move convincing 1. A clear unambiguous security framework (HSM, FIDO, on disk encryption, standard terminology for roles access etc) that is just as common as HTML. There are so many competing strategies here let alone implementations that we just really need one winner that everyone can just drop in to their industry CRM / HR app whatever 2. Legal framework around private data that has social benefits baked in, but limits the crappy side. 3. Stop thinking we can solve the rest of the worlds problems (with technology). There is a tendency for say crypto or tor to think it will create another Arab Spring and whole world will be free. A far far better bet is to build our democracies better, clean out our corruption and uneven playing fields, to make a free and fair society that is just so damn enviable, others have to follow. Anyway enough of that.