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I wish Microsoft had been brave enough not to release Windows 11
- PostThisTooFast 5y agoI wish they had to balls to admit that Windows is a disgraceful mess and START OVER. It's just pathetic at this point.
- Miiko 5y agoYou just cannot stick with version 10 when your major competitor goes all the way to 11 ;)
- TonyTrapp 5y agoAnd macOS has just gone up to 12. They better hurry!
- GoblinSlayer 5y agoTry to beat Windows 2000.
- orionblastar 5y agoNew version of Windows means more money in upgrades for Microsoft.
- batiudrami 5y agoBut upgrades are free.
- yz1ruhzh 5y agoFor those having hardware supporting TPM and compatible with Windows 11.
- tenryuu 5y agoIs Microsoft making money off hardware upgrades?
- jayd16 5y agoOEM sales I guess?
- orionblastar 5y agoThose who have PCs that can't run Windows 11 will have to buy new hardware.
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y agoThis won't happen anytime soon though as currently there is zero reason to upgrade your hardware just to bump the version number.
- kaichanvong 5y agocontroversy.
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- shmerl 5y agoJust switch to Linux if you are already switching.
- consumer451 5y agoWin 10 open CVEs: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-32238/Microsoft-Windows-10.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/p... Linux kernal open CVEs: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-33/product_id-47/cvssscoremin-7/cvssscoremax-7.99/Linux-Linux-Kernel.html https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-33/p... Please don't shoot the messenger.
- atoav 5y agoSo what you wanna say is that Linux people find more CVEs?
- consumer451 5y agoSure, ok.. and they are public knowledge and they are not fixed.
- Jon_Lowtek 5y agoyour links do not filter for "not fixed"
- consumer451 5y agoMy sincere apologies. I don't have a horse in this race. https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php https://www.cvedetails.com/top-50-products.php I would like to add that in my muggle opinion, a CVE being closed does not mean that every desktop has been patched.
- Jon_Lowtek 5y agoThere is no such thing as an open or closed CVE. Conflating "description is public" with "has been patched" would be wrong, but claiming that all existing CVEs ever are "open vulnerabilities" is nonsensical.
- Danieru 5y agoWin11 with the tpm requirement is part of their control ratchet. Microsofts gameplan is not new, nor is it super secret. They've been ratcheting up signing control. Meanwhile all their competitors fully own the app install process and earn those juicy 30% fees. Put another way, if I sounds like a duck and walks like a duck: do you really think Microsoft isn't envious of the appstore?
- distracted_boy 5y agoYou don't like security? How is Trusted Platform Module part of their "control ratchet"?
- kd913 5y agoThe security arguments are dubious at best. Seems more closer to direct vendor/platform lock-in. Games like Valorant now require a TPM 2.0 chip to run. Why? It's a videogame? Why does it need to be locked down to Windows only. How long before all sorts of software get vendor locked in like this? Same kind of bs that happens on Android, safetynet and root. How is this not a ratchet for vendor control? Also screw security if it means planned obsolescence. Microsoft has basically declared that every machine before 8th gen Intel and Zen 2 as obsolete in 5 years time. Why? Those machines are perfectly usable and fast.
- Danieru 5y agoIt's not my keys in there. Giving more power to someone else does not count as security in my book.
- ecmascript 5y agoThey probably did that because otherwise people would not accept that they had to buy new hardware in order to run it. Honestly it's better with a version number. That way you could stay behind if you really want to. I am switching to Linux (finally) since I will simply use a remote desktop configuration for the only program I need to use for work that doesn't work on any other platform than windows.
- jayd16 5y agoYou know, this is probably the most straightforward way to raise the hardware floor. Would anyone really prefer Fall Creators Update 2021 as the patch that killed Windows support for their machine, or a clean break with a new OS?
- loudandskittish 5y agoI've yet to see a single reason why I would want Windows 11.
- vezycash 5y agoNative running of android apps?
- fstrthnscnd 5y agoHow much does it cost when you already have Windows 10?
- loudandskittish 5y agoRAM, processing power and HD space.
- fstrthnscnd 5y agoWould this be the same cost if it were a point release (or service pack, what's the proper terminology in MS world?) rather than a major version release?
- spoonjim 5y agoReportedly better performance.
- albertopv 5y agoIt doesn't seem so https://www.techspot.com/article/2349-windows-11-performance/ https://www.techspot.com/article/2349-windows-11-performance... https://youtu.be/Z1iO7N22Um8?t=674 https://youtu.be/Z1iO7N22Um8?t=674
- sebyx07 5y agoGuys just get a tpm disabled image. I installed w11 even on a 2011 t420 which has i5 and I added 16gb ram and a sata ssd to it and works like a charm
- encryptluks2 5y agoI installed Windows 11 to try it out. I figure, Windows 10 telemetry is bad already, Windows 11 probably won't change that. It isn't that much different than Windows 10. The most noticeable difference is the location of the start icon, but other than that it feels almost exactly like Windows 10. It has been stable so far, more stable in fact. I had a weird issue with my graphics card on Windows 10 where it would crash. I think I determined at some point that my graphics card wasn't getting enough power, although my power supply should have been sufficient. I recently moved, so the improvement could be due in part to that. My last place, anytime I'd run the microwave and have a space heater on it would flip the circuit breaker. Anyhow, haven't had any issues with Windows 11. Don't know if they have better power management or what, but seems resolved now and no more random crashes when playing games which to me is a huge improvement. > Note, Windows isn't my primary OS.. I just use it for my kids gaming computer. I run Linux on my personal computer.
- omglolwtezz 5y agoGuys just get tpm disabled w11 image. I even installed it on a 2011 t420 thinkpad with i5 8gb ram and ssd, and works like a charm
- bvm 5y agoThey painted themselves into a marketing corner, the article makes the salient point that it's fairly unattractive to sell a new laptop with "Windows 10 21H2". What they should have done is ditch the version numbering altogether. "Windows is the last version of Windows".
- distracted_boy 5y agoI really enjoy Windows 11. It's faster than the previous version and has a better UI.
- trog 5y agoWhere was this person when Windows 10 was released
- albertopv 5y agoIt seems there is really no performance reason to switch to W11. https://www.techspot.com/article/2349-windows-11-performance/ https://www.techspot.com/article/2349-windows-11-performance... https://youtu.be/Z1iO7N22Um8?t=674 https://youtu.be/Z1iO7N22Um8?t=674