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Not to mention that if the charger is on-premise, there is no longer a personnel need to drive gas-depleted cars to an offsite refueling station. That may add u

by proggy 5y ago

Not to mention that if the charger is on-premise, there is no longer a personnel need to drive gas-depleted cars to an offsite refueling station. That may add up to significant labor savings.

quantified 5y ago
If agency on-site charging is fast enough, that’s a win, like a pump at every stall.
mike_d 5y ago
> there is no longer a personnel need to drive gas-depleted cars to an offsite refueling station Rental car depots have their own on site gas stations. Fuel on return is one of the highest profit margins rental companies have.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  This varies. Laws on safely storing fuel frequently mean Hertz doesn't want to take on the risk (a small leak tends to cost millions in fines). Instead they'll pay staff to drive cars to a nearby station, where they'll have a discount.
  - mike_d 5y ago
    Above-ground storage tanks for gasoline are quite safe and reliable. The laws aren't that tough, and most of the compliance requirements are satisfied by having double walled tanks. I struggled to find an instance of fines above $50k that didn't also involve gross negligence. I know it sounds scary, but most of the fire stations, hospitals, business parks, and schools you drive past will have a few hundred gallons of diesel or LNG stored on site for backup generators. Your city or county public works, taxi yards, and larger post offices will have on site fueling. Large construction sites will usually have on site fuel, or a truck that comes every day or two.
- iso1210 5y ago
  In the last couple of months I've rented cars from about 10 (Enterprise) locations in the UK, only Heathrow had it's own fueling station.
  - mike_d 5y ago
    The smaller locations you are using are retail fronts, not depots. When you return the car it is taken to an offsite location anyway to get washed, vacuumed, inspected, fueled, and returned.
dheera 5y ago
They aren't charging you for labor, they are charging you just because they can. In most cases where fuel is not returned full, it's probably a business trip where the renter's company is paying and the renter therefore does not take a shit about it.

by proggy 5y ago

Not to mention that if the charger is on-premise, there is no longer a personnel need to drive gas-depleted cars to an offsite refueling station. That may add up to significant labor savings.

quantified 5y ago

If agency on-site charging is fast enough, that’s a win, like a pump at every stall.

mike_d 5y ago

> there is no longer a personnel need to drive gas-depleted cars to an offsite refueling station Rental car depots have their own on site gas stations. Fuel on return is one of the highest profit margins rental companies have.

londons_explore 5y ago
This varies. Laws on safely storing fuel frequently mean Hertz doesn't want to take on the risk (a small leak tends to cost millions in fines). Instead they'll pay staff to drive cars to a nearby station, where they'll have a discount.
- mike_d 5y ago
  Above-ground storage tanks for gasoline are quite safe and reliable. The laws aren't that tough, and most of the compliance requirements are satisfied by having double walled tanks. I struggled to find an instance of fines above $50k that didn't also involve gross negligence. I know it sounds scary, but most of the fire stations, hospitals, business parks, and schools you drive past will have a few hundred gallons of diesel or LNG stored on site for backup generators. Your city or county public works, taxi yards, and larger post offices will have on site fueling. Large construction sites will usually have on site fuel, or a truck that comes every day or two.
iso1210 5y ago
In the last couple of months I've rented cars from about 10 (Enterprise) locations in the UK, only Heathrow had it's own fueling station.
- mike_d 5y ago
  The smaller locations you are using are retail fronts, not depots. When you return the car it is taken to an offsite location anyway to get washed, vacuumed, inspected, fueled, and returned.

dheera 5y ago

They aren't charging you for labor, they are charging you just because they can. In most cases where fuel is not returned full, it's probably a business trip where the renter's company is paying and the renter therefore does not take a shit about it.