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Tomatoes don’t contain any alkaloids..nicotine is a very different kind of alkaloid. Tomatoes contain a diff kind of alkaloid from other nightshades. Tomatine l

Tomatoes don’t contain any alkaloids..nicotine is a very different kind of alkaloid. Tomatoes contain a diff kind of alkaloid from other nightshades. Tomatine levels drop as fruit ripens. Hardly addictive.

jelliclesfarm 5y ago
Having said that…if we want to talk about addictive alkaloids in our food.. Vanillin, Cocaine and Capsaicin are closely related alkaloids and all have addiction potential.
- girvo 5y ago
  > Vanillin, Cocaine and Capsaicin are closely related alkaloids Based on which metric? Neither vanillin nor capsaicin are tropane alkaloids.
  - jelliclesfarm 5y ago
    Addictive properties in a behavioral sense are defined differently from chemical dependency. Physiological and psychoactive aspects of neural stimulation are similar among these alkaloids. Tropane structure of cocaine, scopolamine make them accumulate in liver whereas vanillin, capsaicin etc do not accumulate. Scopolamine stramonium etc are fascinating too. Datura stramonium (DS) is a widespread annual plant, containing atropine, hyoscyamine, and scopolamine, which can produce poisoning with a severe anticholinergic syndrome. In some parts of the world, ingestion of the roots, seeds or the entire plant is a trick to obtain its hallucinogenic and euphoric effects. Also was used to poison royalty and by dacoits. It also has medicinal properties. Has been recorded in medical textbooks at the time of Takshila university and in Buddhists texts. Very effective as homeopathic preparations. Jimson weed is still a common weed on road sides in America. Datura is in the same family of plants as peppers, tomatoes, potatoes and eggplants and it contains a lethal set of alkaloids. But they don’t have the same kind. Tomatoes, for example, doesn’t have any alkaloids. Only tomatine.
    - girvo 5y ago
      > Physiological and psychoactive aspects of neural stimulation are similar among these alkaloids. Only in the broadest possible sense, and honestly so broad that it doesn't really communicate much useful information in this instance. It's similar to conflating heroin's affect on dopamine to that of masturbation, and coming to the conclusion that they're "similar": they are, if you read them as a pure set of checkboxes, but they're so qualitatively and quantitatively different in their affect on the human organism that it muddies more than clarifies -- in my opinion (a semi-educated one, I have a BSc in Chemistry, though I'm no professional) of course. You're definitely right about how fascinating scopolamine is though.

jelliclesfarm 5y ago

Having said that…if we want to talk about addictive alkaloids in our food.. Vanillin, Cocaine and Capsaicin are closely related alkaloids and all have addiction potential.

girvo 5y ago
> Vanillin, Cocaine and Capsaicin are closely related alkaloids Based on which metric? Neither vanillin nor capsaicin are tropane alkaloids.
- jelliclesfarm 5y ago
  Addictive properties in a behavioral sense are defined differently from chemical dependency. Physiological and psychoactive aspects of neural stimulation are similar among these alkaloids. Tropane structure of cocaine, scopolamine make them accumulate in liver whereas vanillin, capsaicin etc do not accumulate. Scopolamine stramonium etc are fascinating too. Datura stramonium (DS) is a widespread annual plant, containing atropine, hyoscyamine, and scopolamine, which can produce poisoning with a severe anticholinergic syndrome. In some parts of the world, ingestion of the roots, seeds or the entire plant is a trick to obtain its hallucinogenic and euphoric effects. Also was used to poison royalty and by dacoits. It also has medicinal properties. Has been recorded in medical textbooks at the time of Takshila university and in Buddhists texts. Very effective as homeopathic preparations. Jimson weed is still a common weed on road sides in America. Datura is in the same family of plants as peppers, tomatoes, potatoes and eggplants and it contains a lethal set of alkaloids. But they don’t have the same kind. Tomatoes, for example, doesn’t have any alkaloids. Only tomatine.
  - girvo 5y ago
    > Physiological and psychoactive aspects of neural stimulation are similar among these alkaloids. Only in the broadest possible sense, and honestly so broad that it doesn't really communicate much useful information in this instance. It's similar to conflating heroin's affect on dopamine to that of masturbation, and coming to the conclusion that they're "similar": they are, if you read them as a pure set of checkboxes, but they're so qualitatively and quantitatively different in their affect on the human organism that it muddies more than clarifies -- in my opinion (a semi-educated one, I have a BSc in Chemistry, though I'm no professional) of course. You're definitely right about how fascinating scopolamine is though.