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What do you mean by pick and chose? ACLU always has to pick their cases.. they cannot afford to be the nations lawyers nor should they be.
by azinman2 5y ago
What do you mean by pick and chose? ACLU always has to pick their cases.. they cannot afford to be the nations lawyers nor should they be.
- debacle 5y agoHe means that, in 2021, they are coming out against free speech in multiple instances.
- bink 5y agoSeveral people have stated this but none have provided an example. Could you be so kind?
- blacksmith_tb 5y agoThis article[1] being a standard talking point. I have been an ACLU member for years, but I do find their current direction to be somewhat worrying. 1: https://archive.md/tL7Rj https://archive.md/tL7Rj
- Fellshard 5y agoThey are explicitly picking and choosing which speech they believe should be free - and it's not just selecting cases, but actively militating against some speech. EDIT: Not just speech, but also other basic rights they have stood for, such as legal representation and rights of the accused.
- azinman2 5y agoCan you please point to these cases?
- Fellshard 5y agoOne major one that seems to have set its course for the ensuing years is its response to the infamous Charlottesville rally, wherein they attempted to argue that they now considered liberties to have precedence among one another. [1] Their response to reforms of Title IX to restore the rights of the accused was to intentionally lift up the rights of the accusers over and above the rights of the accused. Their statement regarding it dishonestly claimed that they were balancing the scales, whereas anyone who has examined Title IX can easily see it leaves the accused without their constitutional rights to due process. [2] In a similar theme, they inserted themselves into the confirmation process of Brett Kavanaugh, taking a clear side on the issue instead of standing for principles of legal representation and initial presumption of innocence. [3] There are other recent articles on continued churning against their prior positions, but unfortunately they are behind a paywall and I do not yet have access to read them. I may be able to find other sources later. [4] [1] https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621ACLU.pdf?mod=article_inline https://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/20180621AC... [2] https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1063456843706585089 https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1063456843706585089 [3] https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1046826766017466370 https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1046826766017466370 [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/19/opinion/letters/aclu-free-speech-race.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/19/opinion/letters/aclu-free...
- azinman2 5y agoThanks!
- iszomer 5y agoFor a good recap, watch JRE #1595 with Ira Glasser.
- amalcon 5y agoIs there a text source available? I'm not interested in getting this kind of information from a video, even if it weren't a polarizing source.
- kyleee 5y agoI don't know anything about Ira Glasser, why are they polarizing?
- AlexCoventry 5y agoRogan is supposed to be the polarizing source.
- amalcon 5y agoJoe Rogan is the one who's polarizing. I don't fully know why myself, as I'm not really a fan of the interview format anyway. I've just observed that he seems to be.
- iszomer 5y agoMaybe you're just a robot devoid of human emotion and response.
- iszomer 5y agoHe was the former (executive) director of the ACLU.