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The EFF appears not to publish board minutes, nor to have posted its constitution or charter to its site (but does advocate for transparency) Are board minutes
by akudha 5y ago
The EFF appears not to publish board minutes, nor to have posted its constitution or charter to its site (but does advocate for transparency)
Are board minutes considered private? What is the logic behind not posting the constitution, that sounds odd...
- seba_dos1 5y agoWhat is that "but does advocate for transparency" even supposed to mean? EFF is not a government, it doesn't have to be transparent at all.
- Kbelicius 5y agoWhat is hard to understand here, really? Nobody said anything about EFF having to be transparent.
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- seba_dos1 5y agoThat text in parenthesis is completely irrelevant to the rest of the sentence and feels cheap. It's clearly trying to convey "they advocate for transparency but aren't even transparent themselves", which is missing the point. I read it as a form of manipulation to instill particular feeling towards EFF in the reader.
- DharmaPolice 5y agoHow is that missing the point? Transparency isn't just for governments and if you advocate for transparency in others you should adopt it yourself.
- jessaustin 5y agoOur rulers are more powerful than we are. They already surveil our every communication, while avoiding public scrutiny whenever possible. So long as CIA and NSA exist, opponents of evil like EFF should be as private as they deem necessary. Although, removing Gilmore isn't a good look.
- seba_dos1 5y agoI can't agree with that. I can advocate for transparency in government and expect my right for personal privacy to be respected at the same time. The whole nature of what government and NGOs are makes points like "you should adopt it yourself" completely moot. EFFs transparency is regulated by it being a 501c charity. It has full right to demand transparency from governments while not being any more transparent than strictly required by law themselves. You may wish for them to be more transparent if you want to support them - it's your choice - but that has no bearing on their advocacy at all, because it's completely irrelevant. The reasons why governments should be transparent simply don't apply to entities that are not governments, because they don't hold the power that governments do. The worst thing that may come from lack of EFF's transparency is my curiosity not being fed with board minutes, possibly causing me to restrain from supporting them in the future - which is hardly comparable to how my country's government influences my life.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y agoIt's like the Bono Haiti charity. Dude just made it to raise awareness that there are poor people in Haiti. No shit...
- jedberg 5y agoIt's a 501c charity, so it does have to be somewhat transparent in exchange for its protected tax status.
- rectang 5y agoThe EFF is a 501(c)(3), so they have to file IRS form 990 and their financials are public: https://www.eff.org/about/annual-reports-and-financials https://www.eff.org/about/annual-reports-and-financials But I can't find any bylaws or board meeting minutes. I'm a bit disappointed.
- busterarm 5y agoWhat more do you expect from an organization made up of almost exclusively lawyers?
- ghaff 5y ago>Are board minutes considered private? Yes. The non-profit whose board I'm on does, I believe, have bylaws filed with the state we're incorporated in. And I know board member names (or maybe just the executive board) are filed as well. But we definitely don't have to make board minutes public.