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>Sure, you'd get pretty mad if every time you get robbed the police searches your vehicle but they don't need to break anything and you will get over it. Or I'

>Sure, you'd get pretty mad if every time you get robbed the police searches your vehicle but they don't need to break anything and you will get over it. Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned.

6510 5y ago
Right, that seems a whole different problem that should really be addressed. In the Netherlands the police are the politest people one could ever meet. It takes very few complaints about politeness or excess force to lose the job. Ofc on the flip side they are also highly incompetent, have no tools, get to see just about ever crook released, are under paid and are very unprofessional. But polite, woah!
- vimacs2 5y ago
  Cute attempt at establishing a completely made up dichotomy but generally the politeness of a police force is correlated with how effective it is, not inversely.
  - AlbertCory 5y ago
    There's a pretty broad statement. Evidence?
  - elzbardico 5y ago
    Of course. In places with low crime levels, the police can afford not being completely stressed to the point they become psychos.
  - 6510 5y ago
    The work involves more than talking with people. They do get the full effect out of being polite but their effectiveness is hurt by a long list of things. For example, we can always spend more money on it. People will always find a way to spend more money. I would scale the budget with how long it takes to do basic things. If those take much to long they either need funding or have to prioritize tasks. Things like interview the witness before GC kicks in. There are crappy security cameras everywhere but the free plan doesn't store the recordings for very long. etc There are countless stupid stories.
    - Talanes 5y ago
      Talking with people is kind of most of the job though.
NullPrefix 5y ago
>Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned. Oh my sweet summer child. Calling the police is never about getting the belongings back. Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels.
- Zababa 5y ago
  > Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels. Or, you know, prevent them from doing crimes again.
  - mulmen 5y ago
    Rehabilitation is clearly not a high priority in the US Justice system. See: outcomes. It's a vengeance based system.
    - elzbardico 5y ago
      inmates have found that is pretty hard to commit the same crimes that put them in jail while they are behind the bars. It should count for anything.
      - mulmen 5y ago
        Until they get out, have no life skills and no prospects because they have been excluded from society then re-offend and the cycle continues.
    - ineedasername 5y ago
      vengeance Unfortunately. But the criminal still can't commit crimes while in prison though. Vengeance just also means that solving the problem of any individual criminal is usually only temporary.
      - 5y ago
blacksmith_tb 5y ago
Well, generally you need to file a police report to file an insurance claim, so whether or not they do you any good (or even harm), you don't have a lot of alternatives (unless you don't have insurance, in which case you also don't have a lot of alternatives, likely).
- Talanes 5y ago
  I've never been wealthy enough to insure my belongings, so my experience with trying to make police reports for theft have not only felt like a waste of time, the officers I've filled with have directly told me I'm wasting my time (and implied I'm wasting theirs) whenever I have made a report.
  - vel0city 5y ago
    In the US, it is common to carry renter's insurance. It covers liability you as a renter might have for damages to the landlord's property such as water, fire, or other kinds of damage. It also usually covers your belongings as well. That coverage usually applies to your belongings regardless of where they are and covers things like theft. Bike get stolen from a bike rack? Backpack get stolen from a car? Usually covered, with deductibles, of course. A lot of people I know who carry renter's insurance were unaware it covered their stuff like that. YMMV on what is and is not covered though.

6510 5y ago

Right, that seems a whole different problem that should really be addressed. In the Netherlands the police are the politest people one could ever meet. It takes very few complaints about politeness or excess force to lose the job. Ofc on the flip side they are also highly incompetent, have no tools, get to see just about ever crook released, are under paid and are very unprofessional. But polite, woah!

vimacs2 5y ago
Cute attempt at establishing a completely made up dichotomy but generally the politeness of a police force is correlated with how effective it is, not inversely.
- AlbertCory 5y ago
  There's a pretty broad statement. Evidence?
- elzbardico 5y ago
  Of course. In places with low crime levels, the police can afford not being completely stressed to the point they become psychos.
- 6510 5y ago
  The work involves more than talking with people. They do get the full effect out of being polite but their effectiveness is hurt by a long list of things. For example, we can always spend more money on it. People will always find a way to spend more money. I would scale the budget with how long it takes to do basic things. If those take much to long they either need funding or have to prioritize tasks. Things like interview the witness before GC kicks in. There are crappy security cameras everywhere but the free plan doesn't store the recordings for very long. etc There are countless stupid stories.
  - Talanes 5y ago
    Talking with people is kind of most of the job though.

NullPrefix 5y ago

>Or I'll stop calling the police, especially if that first invasive experience doesn't end with my belongings returned. Oh my sweet summer child. Calling the police is never about getting the belongings back. Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels.

Zababa 5y ago
> Calling the police is only about striking the perpetrator with violence, hoping that it would equalize the karma levels. Or, you know, prevent them from doing crimes again.
- mulmen 5y ago
  Rehabilitation is clearly not a high priority in the US Justice system. See: outcomes. It's a vengeance based system.
  - elzbardico 5y ago
    inmates have found that is pretty hard to commit the same crimes that put them in jail while they are behind the bars. It should count for anything.
    - mulmen 5y ago
      Until they get out, have no life skills and no prospects because they have been excluded from society then re-offend and the cycle continues.
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    vengeance Unfortunately. But the criminal still can't commit crimes while in prison though. Vengeance just also means that solving the problem of any individual criminal is usually only temporary.
    - 5y ago

blacksmith_tb 5y ago

Well, generally you need to file a police report to file an insurance claim, so whether or not they do you any good (or even harm), you don't have a lot of alternatives (unless you don't have insurance, in which case you also don't have a lot of alternatives, likely).

Talanes 5y ago
I've never been wealthy enough to insure my belongings, so my experience with trying to make police reports for theft have not only felt like a waste of time, the officers I've filled with have directly told me I'm wasting my time (and implied I'm wasting theirs) whenever I have made a report.
- vel0city 5y ago
  In the US, it is common to carry renter's insurance. It covers liability you as a renter might have for damages to the landlord's property such as water, fire, or other kinds of damage. It also usually covers your belongings as well. That coverage usually applies to your belongings regardless of where they are and covers things like theft. Bike get stolen from a bike rack? Backpack get stolen from a car? Usually covered, with deductibles, of course. A lot of people I know who carry renter's insurance were unaware it covered their stuff like that. YMMV on what is and is not covered though.