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I have no idea how your point connects to mine. We're talking about consumers choices here.

• dleslie 5y ago
  Ensuring user privacy _from you_ can be an effective defensive measure for small companies who cannot afford to mount a meaningful legal defense. "Here's all the data we have, officers. We don't have the keys. Good luck."
  • Griffinsauce 5y ago
    Again, how does this connect with why Whatsapp won as an app? Consumers didn't follow this logic. At all. They went for the convenient and free option. I'm so confused by this thread. It's like you guys are pasting the output of an ML model with only the input "secure" at me.
    • AussieWog93 5y ago
      >I'm so confused by this thread. It's like you guys are pasting the output of an ML model with only the input "secure" at me. You talked about encryption on HN. What do you expect? Might as well have brought up gun control at a Republican rally. (Not that you were anything but 100% right. The general public didn't care about encryption at all until the Snowden leaks.)
      • HeyLaughingBoy 5y ago
        They still don't!
        • AussieWog93 5y ago
          I think that depends on how you define "general public". My mum doesn't, but my (far more digitally savvy) teenage cousin does. Back in 2009, though, this was a very different story. Even tech-savvy people didn't care.
    • dleslie 5y ago
      Well, FWIW, the first people I knew using WhatsApp were my friends who were drug dealers or chinese nationals, and both lauded the encryption features.
  • aabbcc1241 5y ago
    having the messages encrypted end to end also free WhatsApp from being asked to do censorship or moderating