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Exactly. Gotta start collecting danger on every teenager who downloads the anarchist cookbook on the off chance they become a far right truck bomber in the nex

Exactly. Gotta start collecting danger on every teenager who downloads the anarchist cookbook on the off chance they become a far right truck bomber in the next 20yr. Yet every time something happens it seems like the suspect was on law enforcement's radar and they did nothing. Odd. Oh well, I'm sure a bigger data haystack to find needles in will solve that. /s

boibombeiro 5y ago
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- cogman10 5y ago
  You can look up terrorism incidents in the US [1]. Far right extremism is far more likely the reason for terrorism in the US vs far left extremism. In recent years, 115 far right attacks vs 19 far left (from 2008 -> 2016). And that's with adding another category for Islamic terrorism (63) (which, in and of itself would be far right terrorism.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States
  - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
    well I mean generally far right terrorism isn't described or charged as terrorism is it? So it seems unlikely that they would track a white kid in case they turned in to a far right terrorist, because the narrative is that's not a problem. Incompatible narratives should be resolved in one direction or another.
    - 0des 5y ago
      Didn't the mostly white population of protestors at the capitol get threatened with terrorism charges or something of that nature?
      - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
        from reading this https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases evidently they were not - although not sure what threats were made.
  - 1cvmask 5y ago
    The FBI has a great track record of successfully thwarting Islamic terrorist plots that it creates: https://www.salon.com/2010/11/28/fbi_8/ https://www.salon.com/2010/11/28/fbi_8/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-te... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/magazine/fbi-international-terrorism-informants.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/magazine/fbi-internationa...
    - jacquesm 5y ago
      At least they won't have to go hunt for them. And it makes the statistics look so much better.
  - flatt 5y ago
    >19 far left (from 2008 -> 2016) And after the summer of 2020, the number for the far left should easily be in the thousands. We'll have to wait to see how that gets recorded.
  - foobiekr 5y ago
    this is true today, but the right has never come close to the left in 1970. [1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22571602-days-of-rage https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22571602-days-of-rage
    - 542354234235 5y ago
      Well, this kind of completely ignores the constant right wing attacks against black people, often backed up by local police. That isn’t a comparison of left vs, right. That is just a book about left attacks. The civil rights era was a violent time on all sides. To try and paint it as a time of violence just for the left is just blatantly incorrect.
Mountain_Skies 5y ago
Or more likely, any teenager who grows up to be an inconvenient political figure that the establishment at the time (which might or might not be ideologically different than the current establishment) wants to get rid of.

boibombeiro 5y ago

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cogman10 5y ago
You can look up terrorism incidents in the US [1]. Far right extremism is far more likely the reason for terrorism in the US vs far left extremism. In recent years, 115 far right attacks vs 19 far left (from 2008 -> 2016). And that's with adding another category for Islamic terrorism (63) (which, in and of itself would be far right terrorism.) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States
- bryanrasmussen 5y ago
  well I mean generally far right terrorism isn't described or charged as terrorism is it? So it seems unlikely that they would track a white kid in case they turned in to a far right terrorist, because the narrative is that's not a problem. Incompatible narratives should be resolved in one direction or another.
  - 0des 5y ago
    Didn't the mostly white population of protestors at the capitol get threatened with terrorism charges or something of that nature?
    - bryanrasmussen 5y ago
      from reading this https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases evidently they were not - although not sure what threats were made.
- 1cvmask 5y ago
  The FBI has a great track record of successfully thwarting Islamic terrorist plots that it creates: https://www.salon.com/2010/11/28/fbi_8/ https://www.salon.com/2010/11/28/fbi_8/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-terrorism-isis-grave-threats/ https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-te... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment-fake-terror-plots https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/magazine/fbi-international-terrorism-informants.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/magazine/fbi-internationa...
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    At least they won't have to go hunt for them. And it makes the statistics look so much better.
- flatt 5y ago
  >19 far left (from 2008 -> 2016) And after the summer of 2020, the number for the far left should easily be in the thousands. We'll have to wait to see how that gets recorded.
- foobiekr 5y ago
  this is true today, but the right has never come close to the left in 1970. [1] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22571602-days-of-rage https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22571602-days-of-rage
  - 542354234235 5y ago
    Well, this kind of completely ignores the constant right wing attacks against black people, often backed up by local police. That isn’t a comparison of left vs, right. That is just a book about left attacks. The civil rights era was a violent time on all sides. To try and paint it as a time of violence just for the left is just blatantly incorrect.

Mountain_Skies 5y ago

Or more likely, any teenager who grows up to be an inconvenient political figure that the establishment at the time (which might or might not be ideologically different than the current establishment) wants to get rid of.