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You went and found the cheapest versions of components you could find to make a false comparison. This has always been the difference between pc laptops and mac

You went and found the cheapest versions of components you could find to make a false comparison. This has always been the difference between pc laptops and mac laptops. People say "I can get this cpu with this graphics card in a pc laptop for WAAYY cheaper" ignoring the memory, quality of the chassis, quality of the screen, quality of the speakers, the battery and just about everything else.

AnthonyMouse 5y ago
No, I didn't. You can get AM4 boards for ~$50. Here's 64GB of memory for $226: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232424 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82... Here's a 2TB SSD for $143: https://www.newegg.com/leven-2tb/p/1B0-016A-00002?Item=9SIAWA4DW44721 https://www.newegg.com/leven-2tb/p/1B0-016A-00002?Item=9SIAW... But then you don't have PCIe 4.0 and it's 4x16GB instead of 2x32GB and it's SATA instead of NVMe. Here's how you spend >$700 on 64GB of memory: https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164200?Item=9SIAVF1F7A6757 https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N... $894! But wait, here's the same thing for $310: https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164178 https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N... It's a different color. Apparently that's what you get for the extra $584. There's getting cheaper stuff and then there's just paying a different amount of money.
- lowbloodsugar 5y ago
  The NVME drive you found is 2400MB/s. MacBook Pro peaks at 7400Mb/s. So your pick is 1/3 speed. The $143 SSD you found is 540Mb/s. So < 1/10th the speed.
  - AnthonyMouse 5y ago
    The NVMe drive I found is 2600MB/s. It also isn't the bottleneck in general. Both the Samsung and the Apple SSDs are just a bad fit for a machine like this. For a non-I/O bound workload it's paying money for nothing. For a read-bound workload, the machine has 64GB of RAM, so you'd need a working set larger than that to have to care, and that's pretty rare. For a write-bound workload, at those speeds, you're going to melt a consumer-grade SSD and need an enterprise one. So you don't want the faster one in this machine; either it's not worth the price or it won't survive that amount of write load.
TheBigSalad 5y ago
True, but some people don't care about that stuff.

AnthonyMouse 5y ago

No, I didn't. You can get AM4 boards for ~$50. Here's 64GB of memory for $226: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232424 https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82... Here's a 2TB SSD for $143: https://www.newegg.com/leven-2tb/p/1B0-016A-00002?Item=9SIAWA4DW44721 https://www.newegg.com/leven-2tb/p/1B0-016A-00002?Item=9SIAW... But then you don't have PCIe 4.0 and it's 4x16GB instead of 2x32GB and it's SATA instead of NVMe. Here's how you spend >$700 on 64GB of memory: https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164200?Item=9SIAVF1F7A6757 https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N... $894! But wait, here's the same thing for $310: https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820164178 https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N... It's a different color. Apparently that's what you get for the extra $584. There's getting cheaper stuff and then there's just paying a different amount of money.

lowbloodsugar 5y ago
The NVME drive you found is 2400MB/s. MacBook Pro peaks at 7400Mb/s. So your pick is 1/3 speed. The $143 SSD you found is 540Mb/s. So < 1/10th the speed.
- AnthonyMouse 5y ago
  The NVMe drive I found is 2600MB/s. It also isn't the bottleneck in general. Both the Samsung and the Apple SSDs are just a bad fit for a machine like this. For a non-I/O bound workload it's paying money for nothing. For a read-bound workload, the machine has 64GB of RAM, so you'd need a working set larger than that to have to care, and that's pretty rare. For a write-bound workload, at those speeds, you're going to melt a consumer-grade SSD and need an enterprise one. So you don't want the faster one in this machine; either it's not worth the price or it won't survive that amount of write load.

TheBigSalad 5y ago

True, but some people don't care about that stuff.