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Neo-Amish Drop Outs (2008)
- magneticnorth 5y agoI believe this should link to https://kk.org/thetechnium/neoamish-drop-o/ https://kk.org/thetechnium/neoamish-drop-o/ (2008)
- snapetom 5y agoAh, thank you. I was wondering what vanishing Asian cultures had to do with the Amish.
- UncleOxidant 5y agoAnd even that link doesn't give a lot of details. I was thinking it had something to do with young (Neo) Amish dropping out and getting into tech.
- snapetom 5y agoHah. Same. Disappointed about the subject, and the use of "Amish" is misleading.
- dang 5y agoThanks! Fixed now. Our software has been replacing submitted URLs with canonical URLs when it finds them; but this time the canonical URL was https://kk.org/ https://kk.org/.
- dredmorbius 5y agoJust as I'd emailed you :-)
- dredmorbius 5y agoEmail such corrections to hn@ycombinator.com. (I've done so.)
- bm3719 5y agoHaving lived around the Amish, I've taken some inspiration from them in various aspects of life. I feel they have a lot to teach us in regards to living a content life. Being here now, I obviously don't subscribe to their philosophy wholesale, but I do sometimes ask myself what the Amish might do in certain situations. Just one example: If I can accomplish a task with unpowered hand tools, I'll do so, even if it's less "efficient" than buying/renting an internal combustion engine or electric powered device that would do the same. I've built many things this way and have taken greater satisfaction from not just the end result, but the creation process. Other healthy side effects are increased independence from external industry, skills development, less cost to the environment, and sometimes free exercise.
- UncleOxidant 5y agoIndeed, we can learn a lot from the Amish. Efficiency isn't always the most important thing in life.
- LadyCailin 5y agoEfficiency isn’t, no, but time is, and efficiency usually lends itself to giving you more time. If the journey itself gives you fulfillment, then by all means, do it how you like. However, the Amish would choose to sacrifice efficiency even when it’s not about the enjoyment of the thing itself, but rather a base necessity, at the cost of their time, which is the most wasteful thing a human being can do with their life. So no, I disagree that there’s anything to learn from the Amish. It’s an absurd religious belief, even if you can “learn something” from it if you squint hard enough.
- blululu 5y agoThis is by design. When efficiency is pursued for greed, the gains typically only go into more greed and not into living a more relaxed life. Most modern economies still require 40 hours of work every week no matter how efficient production becomes, and this is par for the course for the past 300 years of industrialization. The Amish do use plenty of tools and the set is decided by each congregation. The core idea is to have enough but disincentivized people from the excess pursuit of material profit.
- 1cvmask 5y agoThe last paragraph sums it up real well: I know about the traditional Amish; they don’t count because they have never been wired. I’m most interested in Neo-Amish drop outs. (There’s a Neo-Amish MeetUp group, which I think is self-disqualifying.)
- akacia 5y agoBeing offline is a luxury only rich people can afford.