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Look beyond the politics to see the real power of what Haugen has done: she’s provided conclusive evidence that these people knew their products were bad for ki
by numair 5y ago
Look beyond the politics to see the real power of what Haugen has done: she’s provided conclusive evidence that these people knew their products were bad for kids.
Some of you will say “okay but there’s also a large percentage on the other side!” — alright, so, you think it’s cool to play roulette with peoples’ kids’ mental health? “Some of you will be anorexic and secretly suicidal, but a bunch of you will be happy, and all of you fit the target demo we need for our ad clients, so... into the cauldron, all of you!” Don’t you realize how depraved the whole thing is?
I don’t have to convince the crowd here of this, because the data this woman leaked showed us something remarkable: while the supposedly-smart people who work in this industry don’t think the way Facebook makes kids feel is important, guess who cares? The kids! And they’re abandoning the company, or avoiding it like that kid in their class who tried to get them to try meth!
The game is up, and Facebook is culturally incapable of figuring out what to do about it. The leaked memos are straight-up comic book idiot-villain material.
This truly is the beginning of the end for Facebook. I was there at the beginning, at a time very few were paying attention to the fact that this was the beginning of something big. Now we are all here at the end, and very few are paying attention to the fact that this is the end of something big.
- newaccount2021 5y agoHaugen is nothing but Tipper Gore for the web era. An enlightened intellectual who will save us from ourselves! Rap music will rot your brain <-> social media will rot your brain And yet people kept liking rap music and society didn't implode Haugen will get her small victory in a "Parental Advisory" banner at the top of FB and society will keep enjoying social media...and smoking...and drinking...and cheeseburgers...and driving fast...
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- jensensbutton 5y agoAnother way to think of it is she ensured none of the social media giants today (YouTube, TikTok, Snap) or those that come after will do this research.
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- novok 5y agoThere is a lack of control groups with these kind of internal studies although, they were not built for general public consumption in mind. What would happen in a world without facebook, but still the general internet & smartphones, where kids will IM each other with private cameras and look at things their social groups make without real supervision, not to mention the wild west that is the general internet? How much is the issue "the internet", "magazines", "0 cost private photography", "economic decline" and "cultural changes"? I remember in the 90s and 2000s all the issues created with girl's body image and cosmo magazine for example. How much of this is the paper manufacturers (FB), and what is written on the piece of paper (Users of FB ads) and so on? And part of fixing a problem that you have now is figuring out what that problem is. If we slap people and organizations from admitting a problem and trying to fix it, they will just ignore it. The fact they are making such studies is a good thing. A lot of this attention on FB and so on is also political power annoyed that a large new media platform upset the political election balance in the USA. If social media didn't have party political effects in the USA, we all know most of this attention wouldn't be happening, and negative effects on groups will continue unabated. So it makes people not trust many of the anti-FBers rethortic, because we don't trust the person's intentions. Do you actually "think of the children" or is this for tribal political reasons?