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All the big social media sites explicitly tanked, censored, and otherwise buried what would otherwise have been the biggest story of the election, Hunter Biden'

All the big social media sites explicitly tanked, censored, and otherwise buried what would otherwise have been the biggest story of the election, Hunter Biden's laptop scandal. For comparison, imagine all the mainstream media and social media outlets doing that to the Trump Access Hollywood tape scandal late 2016.

pjc50 5y ago
What about the laptop has actually been proven to be true and relevant? Has any information been passed to prosecutors? Has any of this been tested in court?
- furgooswft13 5y ago
  There's literal photographs that show clear as day, from multiple angles in multiple situations, Biden's son abusing drugs and prostitutes. Some of the correspondence on the laptop has been cryptographicly verified. Most importantly, no one has denied any of it. Similar with wikileaks; Dems don't deny, but they obfuscate by claiming "Russian interference", "misinformation" "Fact Check (tm)!" etc. while simultaneously banning and throttling anyone who calls out their shit.
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- UIUC_06 5y ago
  What disingenuous nonsense. The press would have been ALL OVER this story if it was Don Jr.'s laptop. How much press did the Steele "dossier" get even though it was total fabrication? If the establishment refuses to even look at evidence, then *of course" no evidence will be passed to them.
  - TomSwirly 5y ago
    THERE. IS. NO. EVIDENCE.
    - furgooswft13 5y ago
      Pack it up boys, we were wrong. Photographs, cryptographic verified messages, not a single denial from Dems, and a mass censorship campaign. But this guy forget he wasn't still on Twitter and posted caps with periods (you forgot the clapping emoji though).
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dartharva 5y ago
But how much hand did that platforms themselves have in bolstering this bias? Couldn't it be that it was just that there were more influential channels (both on mainstream and social media) that were aligned to one side than those aligned to the other? How do we know how much the infrastructure itself is to blame?
- furgooswft13 5y ago
  No the leadership of all these platforms and media outlets were the ones making these decisions, explicitly so. Twitter suspended the New York Post's account because they posted the story. Nothing about tanking the Hunter Biden story was organic.
mahogany 5y ago
As someone who didn't follow any of this closely because I think it's mostly theater, I don't understand why a Donald Trump (a presidential candidate) scandal is comparable to a Hunter Biden (not a presidential candidate) scandal. Was there something there that implicated Joe Biden in a problematic way?
- isoskeles 5y ago
  Because some of Hunter Biden’s communications implied he could be giving money to his father. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132 > Another purported email, which Fox News said it had confirmed, reportedly refers to a deal pursued by Hunter involving China's largest private energy firm. It is said to include a cryptic mention of "10 held by H for the big guy". > Fox News cited unnamed sources as saying "the big guy" in the purported email was a reference to Joe Biden. This message is said to be from May 2017. Both emails would date from when the former US vice-president was a private citizen. > A former business associate of Hunter Biden has come forward to say he can confirm the allegations.
  - colejohnson66 5y ago
    Fox News isn’t exactly a trustworthy news source when it comes to anything dealing with politics
    - dude187 5y ago
      Your comment is nothing more than useless dismissiveness
    - isoskeles 5y ago
      I posted a BBC article and a quote to directly answer someone's question about why this may have been important during the campaign, specifically how the laptop story would relate back to Joe Biden. I posted this because a lot of people, at the time, thought the story was just about Hunter Biden smoking crack with escorts. People might remember we were all bombarded with odd stories about "pee tapes," and I'm supposed to just believe that the Hunter Biden laptop story was discredited simply because Fox News or NYPost were involved in breaking it? The fucking National Enquirer broke the story that completely ruined John Edwards career in politics. And for clarity, I'm not saying I know what is true or not about the Hunter Biden laptop story, I'm only saying it was worth allowing it to circulate on social media like any other news story from pee tapes to John Edwards.
TomSwirly 5y ago
> Hunter Biden's laptop scandal. Everyone heard about Hunter Biden's laptop, but no one cared, because it was obvious bullshit, and there was literally no hard proof at all. "A guy claims that Biden flew across country, left the laptop there, never came back for it, and it was full of information, but is unwilling to actually show us any concrete proof." Why would any sane person care? What sort of person is so pathologically uninterested in human life that they think this is more important than the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands Americans due to the bungled response to COVID? I'm just horrified.
dagmx 5y ago
Since you seem so engaged by that "scandal", please provide answers to the following: What was the scandal and proof around this supposed laptop? What was on it? What proof tied it to Hunter? Why does Hunter matter at the same level as Trump?

pjc50 5y ago

What about the laptop has actually been proven to be true and relevant? Has any information been passed to prosecutors? Has any of this been tested in court?

furgooswft13 5y ago
There's literal photographs that show clear as day, from multiple angles in multiple situations, Biden's son abusing drugs and prostitutes. Some of the correspondence on the laptop has been cryptographicly verified. Most importantly, no one has denied any of it. Similar with wikileaks; Dems don't deny, but they obfuscate by claiming "Russian interference", "misinformation" "Fact Check (tm)!" etc. while simultaneously banning and throttling anyone who calls out their shit.
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UIUC_06 5y ago
What disingenuous nonsense. The press would have been ALL OVER this story if it was Don Jr.'s laptop. How much press did the Steele "dossier" get even though it was total fabrication? If the establishment refuses to even look at evidence, then *of course" no evidence will be passed to them.
- TomSwirly 5y ago
  THERE. IS. NO. EVIDENCE.
  - furgooswft13 5y ago
    Pack it up boys, we were wrong. Photographs, cryptographic verified messages, not a single denial from Dems, and a mass censorship campaign. But this guy forget he wasn't still on Twitter and posted caps with periods (you forgot the clapping emoji though).
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dartharva 5y ago

But how much hand did that platforms themselves have in bolstering this bias? Couldn't it be that it was just that there were more influential channels (both on mainstream and social media) that were aligned to one side than those aligned to the other? How do we know how much the infrastructure itself is to blame?

furgooswft13 5y ago
No the leadership of all these platforms and media outlets were the ones making these decisions, explicitly so. Twitter suspended the New York Post's account because they posted the story. Nothing about tanking the Hunter Biden story was organic.

mahogany 5y ago

As someone who didn't follow any of this closely because I think it's mostly theater, I don't understand why a Donald Trump (a presidential candidate) scandal is comparable to a Hunter Biden (not a presidential candidate) scandal. Was there something there that implicated Joe Biden in a problematic way?

isoskeles 5y ago
Because some of Hunter Biden’s communications implied he could be giving money to his father. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132 > Another purported email, which Fox News said it had confirmed, reportedly refers to a deal pursued by Hunter involving China's largest private energy firm. It is said to include a cryptic mention of "10 held by H for the big guy". > Fox News cited unnamed sources as saying "the big guy" in the purported email was a reference to Joe Biden. This message is said to be from May 2017. Both emails would date from when the former US vice-president was a private citizen. > A former business associate of Hunter Biden has come forward to say he can confirm the allegations.
- colejohnson66 5y ago
  Fox News isn’t exactly a trustworthy news source when it comes to anything dealing with politics
  - dude187 5y ago
    Your comment is nothing more than useless dismissiveness
  - isoskeles 5y ago
    I posted a BBC article and a quote to directly answer someone's question about why this may have been important during the campaign, specifically how the laptop story would relate back to Joe Biden. I posted this because a lot of people, at the time, thought the story was just about Hunter Biden smoking crack with escorts. People might remember we were all bombarded with odd stories about "pee tapes," and I'm supposed to just believe that the Hunter Biden laptop story was discredited simply because Fox News or NYPost were involved in breaking it? The fucking National Enquirer broke the story that completely ruined John Edwards career in politics. And for clarity, I'm not saying I know what is true or not about the Hunter Biden laptop story, I'm only saying it was worth allowing it to circulate on social media like any other news story from pee tapes to John Edwards.

TomSwirly 5y ago

> Hunter Biden's laptop scandal. Everyone heard about Hunter Biden's laptop, but no one cared, because it was obvious bullshit, and there was literally no hard proof at all. "A guy claims that Biden flew across country, left the laptop there, never came back for it, and it was full of information, but is unwilling to actually show us any concrete proof." Why would any sane person care? What sort of person is so pathologically uninterested in human life that they think this is more important than the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands Americans due to the bungled response to COVID? I'm just horrified.

dagmx 5y ago

Since you seem so engaged by that "scandal", please provide answers to the following: What was the scandal and proof around this supposed laptop? What was on it? What proof tied it to Hunter? Why does Hunter matter at the same level as Trump?