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Yet again, a big nothingburger. Nothing to suggest FB has broken the law. Compare this to what old school media actually HAS done (phone hacking), this is simpl

Yet again, a big nothingburger. Nothing to suggest FB has broken the law. Compare this to what old school media actually HAS done (phone hacking), this is simply the MSM trying to put the boot in.

objclxt 5y ago
> Nothing to suggest FB has broken the law I don't know what rock you've been under, but just this week Facebook has been accused of illegal collusion with Google[1] *and* illegally ignoring competition authorities when completing its Giphy acquisition. [1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-google-team-up-against-apples-user-privacy-2021-10?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-google-team-up-agai... [2]: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736236/facebook-giphy-uk-cma-fine https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736236/facebook-giphy-...
dboreham 5y ago
They may not have broken "the law" but they _did_ break the US political system (not to say it was perfect beforehand...).
- jensensbutton 5y ago
  Citation needed.
Applejinx 5y ago
I would be interested in whether they took an active role in the Jan 6 insurgency. I think it's well established that they'll take money from whoever, and then work for them with great determination. I don't think they have any INTEREST in the law, and spying on just plain citizens and consumers is the least of the things they've been up to. All it takes is them going, 'hey this administration is going to get in the way of a revenue stream, we've been getting good money to facilitate what some customers want' (i.e. revolution, genocide, etc) And then 'we should make ourselves available to these groups, to disrupt the administration that might hold us accountable. If they get hurt, so what? They are against us' Look back to Cambridge Analytica. Facebook can serve to overthrow the government… any government… if their influence is profound enough. They've got control and have done studies on what they're able to do, and it's not unthinkable that they are doubling down rather than be brought to account. They rightly see themselves as a key player here. They're the megaphone to be used by state powers and revolutionists, in many countries including at home. My gut reaction is that this is really the tip of the iceberg, and what they're really up to is on a very large scope. If you found you had the Panopticon and could swing any election, flip any issue, what would you do? Then consider it's Mark, in sole control of all this, and the same guy he's been all this time. I don't think he delights in destroying people. But the guy is purely self-interested and is just being a paper clip maximizer, the paper clips being 'power as he has been able to wield it'.
PaulAJ 5y ago
People sometimes secretly do bad things that are not actually illegal. When that happens the public need to know so that they can pressure politicians to change the law. That is what this is about. The scandal is not that Facebook broke the law, it is that it did all this stuff without breaking the law.

Yet again, a big nothingburger. Nothing to suggest FB has broken the law. Compare this to what old school media actually HAS done (phone hacking), this is simply the MSM trying to put the boot in.

objclxt 5y ago

> Nothing to suggest FB has broken the law I don't know what rock you've been under, but just this week Facebook has been accused of illegal collusion with Google[1] *and* illegally ignoring competition authorities when completing its Giphy acquisition. [1]: https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-google-team-up-against-apples-user-privacy-2021-10?r=US&IR=T https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-google-team-up-agai... [2]: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736236/facebook-giphy-uk-cma-fine https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/20/22736236/facebook-giphy-...

dboreham 5y ago

They may not have broken "the law" but they _did_ break the US political system (not to say it was perfect beforehand...).

jensensbutton 5y ago
Citation needed.

Applejinx 5y ago

I would be interested in whether they took an active role in the Jan 6 insurgency. I think it's well established that they'll take money from whoever, and then work for them with great determination. I don't think they have any INTEREST in the law, and spying on just plain citizens and consumers is the least of the things they've been up to. All it takes is them going, 'hey this administration is going to get in the way of a revenue stream, we've been getting good money to facilitate what some customers want' (i.e. revolution, genocide, etc) And then 'we should make ourselves available to these groups, to disrupt the administration that might hold us accountable. If they get hurt, so what? They are against us' Look back to Cambridge Analytica. Facebook can serve to overthrow the government… any government… if their influence is profound enough. They've got control and have done studies on what they're able to do, and it's not unthinkable that they are doubling down rather than be brought to account. They rightly see themselves as a key player here. They're the megaphone to be used by state powers and revolutionists, in many countries including at home. My gut reaction is that this is really the tip of the iceberg, and what they're really up to is on a very large scope. If you found you had the Panopticon and could swing any election, flip any issue, what would you do? Then consider it's Mark, in sole control of all this, and the same guy he's been all this time. I don't think he delights in destroying people. But the guy is purely self-interested and is just being a paper clip maximizer, the paper clips being 'power as he has been able to wield it'.

PaulAJ 5y ago

People sometimes secretly do bad things that are not actually illegal. When that happens the public need to know so that they can pressure politicians to change the law. That is what this is about. The scandal is not that Facebook broke the law, it is that it did all this stuff without breaking the law.