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Nokia CEO to Android phone makers: Danger ahead

10 points by sun123 15y ago

corin_ 15y ago
While he is obviously correct, the fact that it comes from him is what makes it both a story and a non-story at the same time. Really it's a non-story, because even if he didn't think this was the case, it would be the right PR spin for his company to put on it.
nzoschke 15y ago
Classic! It's been a while since we've had a good FUD campaign from Microsoft.
- 5hoom 15y ago
  I know, the tone of this piece is just drearily familiar. Nothing substantial, just vague speculation about impending doom, all phrased so as to be just "asking questions", then a cosy reminder of how great Windows phone is. Oh, Nokia
jm4 15y ago
This is FUD. He doesn't seem to think there's any danger to other manufacturers shipping Windows phones. Wouldn't they be in a similar situation due to the MS/Nokia partnership? I am doubtful that this will have any significant impact on manufacturers shipping Android phones. Google has always had their own model. Now they can bring it in house. This deal was likely more to do with patents anyway. There are plenty of pieces of pie to go around and the whole thing is still growing at the same time.
- 2muchcoffeeman 15y ago
  From the article: "As for Nokia, Elop appeared to suggest that Google's move reinforced the logic for Nokia's agreement with Microsoft." I don't think he believes the situation is different to the MS/Nokia deal. He's just spinning it in his favour.
nextparadigms 15y ago
This makes it even more obvious that Microsoft pretty much owns Nokia, so the situation is not much different than Google owning Motorola. Why else would they invite their own competitors to compete with them? Would Samsung go out and say "Please, we need more companies to compete with us!" ? The Microsoft-Nokia situation is actually worse for the others,because Nokia actually does have a special deal with Microsoft for WP7, and their other partners would not be equal to Nokia at all. Plus, Android phones are selling in millions. WP7 ones are not. So that's at least 2 huge reasons, why even now, the WP7 deal would still make manufacturers worse off than with Android. Also, I don't think the acquisition of Motorola will slow Android down. In fact, I think it will help it grow even faster now that more companies will step out into the light and start developing for Android. I'm sure there are quite a few companies out there who preferred to stay out of it until this patent issue was resolved. And I'm not even talking only about the smartphone industry here. Android could be used to make a lot more types of devices "smart". So Motorola acquisition and their patents should help catalyze those markets.
tomelders 15y ago
In summation: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!

10 points by sun123 15y ago

While he is obviously correct, the fact that it comes from him is what makes it both a story and a non-story at the same time. Really it's a non-story, because even if he didn't think this was the case, it would be the right PR spin for his company to put on it.

nzoschke 15y ago

Classic! It's been a while since we've had a good FUD campaign from Microsoft.

5hoom 15y ago
I know, the tone of this piece is just drearily familiar. Nothing substantial, just vague speculation about impending doom, all phrased so as to be just "asking questions", then a cosy reminder of how great Windows phone is. Oh, Nokia

jm4 15y ago

This is FUD. He doesn't seem to think there's any danger to other manufacturers shipping Windows phones. Wouldn't they be in a similar situation due to the MS/Nokia partnership? I am doubtful that this will have any significant impact on manufacturers shipping Android phones. Google has always had their own model. Now they can bring it in house. This deal was likely more to do with patents anyway. There are plenty of pieces of pie to go around and the whole thing is still growing at the same time.

2muchcoffeeman 15y ago
From the article: "As for Nokia, Elop appeared to suggest that Google's move reinforced the logic for Nokia's agreement with Microsoft." I don't think he believes the situation is different to the MS/Nokia deal. He's just spinning it in his favour.

nextparadigms 15y ago

This makes it even more obvious that Microsoft pretty much owns Nokia, so the situation is not much different than Google owning Motorola. Why else would they invite their own competitors to compete with them? Would Samsung go out and say "Please, we need more companies to compete with us!" ? The Microsoft-Nokia situation is actually worse for the others,because Nokia actually does have a special deal with Microsoft for WP7, and their other partners would not be equal to Nokia at all. Plus, Android phones are selling in millions. WP7 ones are not. So that's at least 2 huge reasons, why even now, the WP7 deal would still make manufacturers worse off than with Android. Also, I don't think the acquisition of Motorola will slow Android down. In fact, I think it will help it grow even faster now that more companies will step out into the light and start developing for Android. I'm sure there are quite a few companies out there who preferred to stay out of it until this patent issue was resolved. And I'm not even talking only about the smartphone industry here. Android could be used to make a lot more types of devices "smart". So Motorola acquisition and their patents should help catalyze those markets.

tomelders 15y ago

In summation: BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!