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> power button between backspace and delete How layouts like this reach the light of day totally escapes me.

by junaru 5y ago

kube-system 5y ago
That doesn't look nearly as frustrating as the right shift key. I'm not sure how I wouldn't miss that every time I tried to hit it.
gadgetoid 5y ago
I managed to hit power and enter in quick succession on the Mk III accidentally just a day or two ago so... yeah... I'd be in strong support of putting it somewhere less under my fingertips. Confused the heck out of me, I thought the battery had run out.
- samstave 5y ago
  Can key assignment software deal with this? I didnt have a PrtSC key on my Spectre HP machine, and so I remapped NumLock to PrtSc in order to use my screenshot program. Wonder if power can be reassigned.
  - gadgetoid 5y ago
    It's only happened to me once, so I haven't bothered to change it but at least on Linux Mint it's just Settings -> Power Management -> When the power button is pressed -> Do nothing. Problem solved! Bit of a waste of a good button, though and it doesn't look trivial to rebind (IE: not supported by the builtin Shortcuts GUI even though pressing the power button obviously elicits a flicker of the input box).
  - dmos62 5y ago
    Yes, at least on another laptop I used that had the power button in a similar place. The button was basically a button like no other for the OS and I was able to just unbind it. It didn't keep me from being able to use the button to power on or to hold the button for a long time to power off.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  Yeah Macs deal with this by requiring a slightly longer press than you normally would with normal typing. Also for the caps and eject buttons. Smart idea that works well. I wish other manufacturers would follow their lead (like they do on the design front!)
iakov 5y ago
For me it's a huge red flag. Either the company doesn't test their devices on real users, or doesn't care.
- thereddaikon 5y ago
  Putting the power button on the keyboard is a cost cutting measure. A lot of Chromebooks do it too. When you are building to a price you get things like this. I'm not surprised really. I've never really considered these types of devices all that viable on merits. What about this is more compelling than a recertified ThinkPad? Because that's what $500 competes with.
  - hawski 5y ago
    I like how Chromebooks deal with the button. AFAIR when you press it screen contents fade into black and when the animation finishes (after something like 3 seconds) it will show you shutdown/reboot dialog. I never had any problem with the button. On Linuxen it is not as clear cut though.
kensai 5y ago
To be fair, it is not exactly between.

> power button between backspace and delete How layouts like this reach the light of day totally escapes me.

by junaru 5y ago

> power button between backspace and delete How layouts like this reach the light of day totally escapes me.

That doesn't look nearly as frustrating as the right shift key. I'm not sure how I wouldn't miss that every time I tried to hit it.

gadgetoid 5y ago

I managed to hit power and enter in quick succession on the Mk III accidentally just a day or two ago so... yeah... I'd be in strong support of putting it somewhere less under my fingertips. Confused the heck out of me, I thought the battery had run out.

samstave 5y ago
Can key assignment software deal with this? I didnt have a PrtSC key on my Spectre HP machine, and so I remapped NumLock to PrtSc in order to use my screenshot program. Wonder if power can be reassigned.
- gadgetoid 5y ago
  It's only happened to me once, so I haven't bothered to change it but at least on Linux Mint it's just Settings -> Power Management -> When the power button is pressed -> Do nothing. Problem solved! Bit of a waste of a good button, though and it doesn't look trivial to rebind (IE: not supported by the builtin Shortcuts GUI even though pressing the power button obviously elicits a flicker of the input box).
- dmos62 5y ago
  Yes, at least on another laptop I used that had the power button in a similar place. The button was basically a button like no other for the OS and I was able to just unbind it. It didn't keep me from being able to use the button to power on or to hold the button for a long time to power off.
GekkePrutser 5y ago
Yeah Macs deal with this by requiring a slightly longer press than you normally would with normal typing. Also for the caps and eject buttons. Smart idea that works well. I wish other manufacturers would follow their lead (like they do on the design front!)

iakov 5y ago

For me it's a huge red flag. Either the company doesn't test their devices on real users, or doesn't care.

thereddaikon 5y ago
Putting the power button on the keyboard is a cost cutting measure. A lot of Chromebooks do it too. When you are building to a price you get things like this. I'm not surprised really. I've never really considered these types of devices all that viable on merits. What about this is more compelling than a recertified ThinkPad? Because that's what $500 competes with.
- hawski 5y ago
  I like how Chromebooks deal with the button. AFAIR when you press it screen contents fade into black and when the animation finishes (after something like 3 seconds) it will show you shutdown/reboot dialog. I never had any problem with the button. On Linuxen it is not as clear cut though.

kensai 5y ago

To be fair, it is not exactly between.