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do you just melt when in the office?

by Jenk 5y ago

piva00 5y ago
No, I like offices, I'm a very outspoken and outgoing person, I enjoy social interactions. I don't like a camera pointing at my face. It's not that difficult to see that this is a very different experience than sharing an office. And I'm tired of repeating this.
- prepend 5y ago
  I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you at all, but cynically, I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. I had female coworker confide to me that she didn’t like turning her camera on because it takes 40 minutes to apply her makeup every day. So she only does it for important meetings, but otherwise leaves the camera off.
  - kayodelycaon 5y ago
    > I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. So... if you don't understand someone else's reasons for doing something, you assume they aren't being honest with you?
    - piva00 5y ago
      > So... if you don't understand someone else's reasons for doing something, you assume they aren't being honest with you? I feel you are getting somewhere with this train of thought, so far I've replied a few people on this thread that seems to think this way and project this need of having a camera on because they don't understand how that can negatively affect others and assume people are being dishonest.
      - kayodelycaon 5y ago
        Having a disability that isn't visible, I deal with this problem all the time. The underlying issue is thinking of other's behavior as if it it was own behavior and then determine the other person's motivates from that assumption. If you don't understand someone else, you'll assume their reasons for a specific thing are the same as if you were doing that thing. Example: I take more days off than I have PTO for. Conclusion: I'm claiming to have a disability to get to have more vacation days. Reality: I've gone six months without any kind of vacation and many of my weekends spent barely recovering from work. My disability has taken so much from me that I find it hard to justify staying alive. When I get back to work, people ask how my vacation was.
  - piva00 5y ago
    > I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you at all, but cynically, I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. If you are working remotely, does it matter? Does it matter if someone hasn't showered in a week and doesn't want to show that on camera but is still a productive worker? I really don't get this nosiness about people's lives when you aren't sharing a common physical space. I enjoy sometimes being able to get out of bed a bit later, not having time to do a full morning ritual before work if I can get some 30-45 min more out of my sleep, why should I have to care about all of that to show my face to colleagues on camera? Why should you judge someone that doesn't want their camera on?
  - fbanon 5y ago
    >I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week Is it any of your business?
  - wonderwonder 5y ago
    Ever think that its people like you that drive people to not want to turn on their cameras? The fear of constantly being watched and judged? If someone is working remotely the way they look or if they have not showered is completely irrelevant. Only questions that matter are is the work getting done and is the person answering questions competently. Nothing else should matter, least of all if you can watch them on cam.

do you just melt when in the office?

by Jenk 5y ago

do you just melt when in the office?

No, I like offices, I'm a very outspoken and outgoing person, I enjoy social interactions. I don't like a camera pointing at my face. It's not that difficult to see that this is a very different experience than sharing an office. And I'm tired of repeating this.

prepend 5y ago
I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you at all, but cynically, I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. I had female coworker confide to me that she didn’t like turning her camera on because it takes 40 minutes to apply her makeup every day. So she only does it for important meetings, but otherwise leaves the camera off.
- kayodelycaon 5y ago
  > I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. So... if you don't understand someone else's reasons for doing something, you assume they aren't being honest with you?
  - piva00 5y ago
    > So... if you don't understand someone else's reasons for doing something, you assume they aren't being honest with you? I feel you are getting somewhere with this train of thought, so far I've replied a few people on this thread that seems to think this way and project this need of having a camera on because they don't understand how that can negatively affect others and assume people are being dishonest.
    - kayodelycaon 5y ago
      Having a disability that isn't visible, I deal with this problem all the time. The underlying issue is thinking of other's behavior as if it it was own behavior and then determine the other person's motivates from that assumption. If you don't understand someone else, you'll assume their reasons for a specific thing are the same as if you were doing that thing. Example: I take more days off than I have PTO for. Conclusion: I'm claiming to have a disability to get to have more vacation days. Reality: I've gone six months without any kind of vacation and many of my weekends spent barely recovering from work. My disability has taken so much from me that I find it hard to justify staying alive. When I get back to work, people ask how my vacation was.
- piva00 5y ago
  > I’m sure this doesn’t apply to you at all, but cynically, I just feel that when I hear these weird to me reasons that I can’t understand, I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week. If you are working remotely, does it matter? Does it matter if someone hasn't showered in a week and doesn't want to show that on camera but is still a productive worker? I really don't get this nosiness about people's lives when you aren't sharing a common physical space. I enjoy sometimes being able to get out of bed a bit later, not having time to do a full morning ritual before work if I can get some 30-45 min more out of my sleep, why should I have to care about all of that to show my face to colleagues on camera? Why should you judge someone that doesn't want their camera on?
- fbanon 5y ago
  >I just assume the person hasn’t showered in a week Is it any of your business?
- wonderwonder 5y ago
  Ever think that its people like you that drive people to not want to turn on their cameras? The fear of constantly being watched and judged? If someone is working remotely the way they look or if they have not showered is completely irrelevant. Only questions that matter are is the work getting done and is the person answering questions competently. Nothing else should matter, least of all if you can watch them on cam.