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I highly doubt 90% is going to apply as a new goalpost. Yes, it reduces ICU and deaths in risk groups A LOT, but it doesn't explain forcing or pressuring peopl

I highly doubt 90% is going to apply as a new goalpost. Yes, it reduces ICU and deaths in risk groups A LOT, but it doesn't explain forcing or pressuring people out of risk groups to vaccinate. There's more information constantly flowing in now, how under reported all the different complications and side effects vaccines can cause actually is now. And why is it under reported? Because of the whole propaganda of "vaccines are safe and effective, can't do you harm, if you believe otherwise you are anti-science moron". People even if they have long lasting side effects they are ridiculed when they go to doctor's and same with their families. No reporting going on about this at all. I've read over 1000 anecdotal stories by now, where similar set of circumstances happen, although if you read those stories it would be obvious that these are not coincidences, imagination of people or anything remotely like that. It's great that a recent video came out where Kyle is interviewed by Dr John Campbell about his experience with doctors.

bryanlarsen 5y ago
If they were trying to hide vaccine side effects, they would have hidden the pericardia side effect. The side effect rate is close enough to the baseline pericardia rate and the consequences minor enough that it would have been easy to hide. They delayed the vaccine roll out to children a couple of months to further verify that. That really pisses me off, because rolling the kids vaccine out a couple months earlier would have a saved a good number of lives. If you want to talk about side effects, lets talk about the side effects of COVID. I've got a friend with Chronic Fatigue as a side effect from H1N1, a really nasty disease. She's on long term disability and the economy so all of us insurance customers and taxpayers are paying for her support for 25+ years instead of her being gainfully employed. Widespread long COVID is going to cause massive suffering to people and the economy.
- mewpmewp2 5y ago
  I'm not sure if anyone is trying to hide vaccine side effects, but here are few things I'm convinced of: 1. Post vaccine long term side effects are severely under reported. I don't know by how much, though. 2. Doctors generally don't take patients seriously who claim they have some issues from vaccines. These rarely get reported. I also think that covid is terrible and likely has higher chance of causing long term damage, and this is why I have elected to stay home. I'm staying home until there's more awareness of both, long covid, and vaccine complications and more info about treating either of those. You might also want to take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU I have read over probably 1,000 anecdotal stories right now, and there's similar pattern every time, despite symptoms being so similar, doctors rarely believe vaccines could be the cause.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    Is it possible that there are unknown side effects? Sure. Is it likely that they are more common or more severe than pericarditis? No. The world has administered 4B doses of COVID vaccines. Risks have been bounded to a pretty low level.
    - mewpmewp2 5y ago
      I'm conflicted about this. So the research group React19, for instance which is dealing with vaccine complications since end of 2020, supposedly has 5,000 people it has been in contact with (from where supposedly 6 people had committed suicide - according to Kyle, who's also been talking with the group). They have conducted a survey, there was a following question: Are you the only one in your family to have a persistent adverse reaction to the vaccine? Yes: 142 No: 13 So out of 155 respondents, 13 had another family member who had persistent adverse reaction. What is the average count of family members per people? This implies a lot more frequent persistent adverse reactions from vaccines that is generally reported so far. At least I would like this being addressed somehow. And similarly looking at anecdotal stories, there are often couples who have had persistent adverse effects, and there was just now a video story John Campbell showed where 2 training partners together were diagnosed with one pericarditis and the other one with myocarditis. If there's multiple people together getting this diagnosis with the frequency I'm seeing, it seems it's generally under reported. According to the same survey top symptoms are 1) Fatigue 2) Brain fog and heart issues only comes next. I definitely don't want 1) and 2) either, so I'm just waiting for someone to address all of this.
      - bryanlarsen 5y ago
        Many people believe that autoimmune and/or psycho-somatic disorders are vastly underdiagnosed in the populace, that there are millions of Americans undiagnosed with those disorders. If so, having a few thousand coincidentally appear after vaccination is likely just that, coincidence. And those are nasty diseases. I have one friend with Guillaim Barre as a side effect of H1N1, one friend with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as a side effect of H1N1 and a cousin with Lupus. So doing all you can to avoid these diseases is smart. Which means getting COVID and flu vaccines. Even if the vaccine causes these chronic diseases, it does so at a very low rate compared to the actual disease. Millions of Americans already have long COVID. Herd immunity may eventually protect future generations of Americans and current citizens of New Zealand and Singapore, but it's not going to protect the current citizens of the US.

bryanlarsen 5y ago

If they were trying to hide vaccine side effects, they would have hidden the pericardia side effect. The side effect rate is close enough to the baseline pericardia rate and the consequences minor enough that it would have been easy to hide. They delayed the vaccine roll out to children a couple of months to further verify that. That really pisses me off, because rolling the kids vaccine out a couple months earlier would have a saved a good number of lives. If you want to talk about side effects, lets talk about the side effects of COVID. I've got a friend with Chronic Fatigue as a side effect from H1N1, a really nasty disease. She's on long term disability and the economy so all of us insurance customers and taxpayers are paying for her support for 25+ years instead of her being gainfully employed. Widespread long COVID is going to cause massive suffering to people and the economy.

mewpmewp2 5y ago
I'm not sure if anyone is trying to hide vaccine side effects, but here are few things I'm convinced of: 1. Post vaccine long term side effects are severely under reported. I don't know by how much, though. 2. Doctors generally don't take patients seriously who claim they have some issues from vaccines. These rarely get reported. I also think that covid is terrible and likely has higher chance of causing long term damage, and this is why I have elected to stay home. I'm staying home until there's more awareness of both, long covid, and vaccine complications and more info about treating either of those. You might also want to take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7inaTiDKaU I have read over probably 1,000 anecdotal stories right now, and there's similar pattern every time, despite symptoms being so similar, doctors rarely believe vaccines could be the cause.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  Is it possible that there are unknown side effects? Sure. Is it likely that they are more common or more severe than pericarditis? No. The world has administered 4B doses of COVID vaccines. Risks have been bounded to a pretty low level.
  - mewpmewp2 5y ago
    I'm conflicted about this. So the research group React19, for instance which is dealing with vaccine complications since end of 2020, supposedly has 5,000 people it has been in contact with (from where supposedly 6 people had committed suicide - according to Kyle, who's also been talking with the group). They have conducted a survey, there was a following question: Are you the only one in your family to have a persistent adverse reaction to the vaccine? Yes: 142 No: 13 So out of 155 respondents, 13 had another family member who had persistent adverse reaction. What is the average count of family members per people? This implies a lot more frequent persistent adverse reactions from vaccines that is generally reported so far. At least I would like this being addressed somehow. And similarly looking at anecdotal stories, there are often couples who have had persistent adverse effects, and there was just now a video story John Campbell showed where 2 training partners together were diagnosed with one pericarditis and the other one with myocarditis. If there's multiple people together getting this diagnosis with the frequency I'm seeing, it seems it's generally under reported. According to the same survey top symptoms are 1) Fatigue 2) Brain fog and heart issues only comes next. I definitely don't want 1) and 2) either, so I'm just waiting for someone to address all of this.
    - bryanlarsen 5y ago
      Many people believe that autoimmune and/or psycho-somatic disorders are vastly underdiagnosed in the populace, that there are millions of Americans undiagnosed with those disorders. If so, having a few thousand coincidentally appear after vaccination is likely just that, coincidence. And those are nasty diseases. I have one friend with Guillaim Barre as a side effect of H1N1, one friend with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis as a side effect of H1N1 and a cousin with Lupus. So doing all you can to avoid these diseases is smart. Which means getting COVID and flu vaccines. Even if the vaccine causes these chronic diseases, it does so at a very low rate compared to the actual disease. Millions of Americans already have long COVID. Herd immunity may eventually protect future generations of Americans and current citizens of New Zealand and Singapore, but it's not going to protect the current citizens of the US.