Let's not get too emotional about things and keep to the HN guidelines. I do understand and somewhat agree with the "perfect is the enemy of good" thinking, bu

Let's not get too emotional about things and keep to the HN guidelines. I do understand and somewhat agree with the "perfect is the enemy of good" thinking, but it's still good to be aware and keep outselves honest about the difference between them. The marginal CO2 perspective is in fact an establilished thing in the industry, see eg [1] [2]. Regarding "insurmountable demands", not sure what you're referring to here, the discussion was about whether there are significant indirect co2 & environmental costs to "carbon neutral" electricity as defined by Google, which I argued there are. [1] https://www.nwcouncil.org/energy/marginal-carbon-dioxide-production-rates-of-the-nw-power-systemdraft-for-comment https://www.nwcouncil.org/energy/marginal-carbon-dioxide-pro... [2] https://www.tmrow.com/blog/marginal-carbon-intensity-of-electricity-with-machine-learning/ https://www.tmrow.com/blog/marginal-carbon-intensity-of-elec...